[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Jon Hardcastle]

Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i get this

!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (31 Dec 2009)
# Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf >= 2.64, wv2 >= 0.4.0,
# several open security bugs, ...
#
# Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0
#
# See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429, 285018, 294676,
# 287276, 292791, ...
#
# Masked for removal in 30 days
#


does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the emerge but i dont really know what i am doing :-/


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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Samstag 02 Januar 2010, Jon Hardcastle wrote:
> Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i
>  get this
> 
> !! All ebuilds that could satisfy "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" have been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
>  request: - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (31 Dec 2009)
> # Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf >= 2.64, wv2 >= 0.4.0,
> # several open security bugs, ...
> #
> # Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0
> #
> # See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429, 285018, 294676,
> # 287276, 292791, ...
> #
> # Masked for removal in 30 days
> #
> 
> 
> does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the emerge but i dont
>  really know what i am doing :-/
> 
> 
> -----------------------
> N: Jon Hardcastle
> E: Jon@eHardcastle.com
> 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.'
> 
> ***********
> Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it
>  with jon AT eHardcastle.com ***********
> 
> -----------------------
> 


yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on.

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:05:44 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on.

Unfortunately there are some apps that do not have KDE4 replacements.
While I understand the Gentoo devs decision to drop the KDE3 desktop and
apps from portage, kdelibs should be kept as long as there are apps
depending on it. No, dropping all those apps is no the answer either, at
least, not yet.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Sleep is an excellent way of listening to an opera. - James Stephens
(1882-1950)

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:05:44 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>   
>> yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on.
>>     
>
> Unfortunately there are some apps that do not have KDE4 replacements.
> While I understand the Gentoo devs decision to drop the KDE3 desktop and
> apps from portage, kdelibs should be kept as long as there are apps
> depending on it. No, dropping all those apps is no the answer either, at
> least, not yet.
>
>   

Very true.  There are still things that I can do in KDE 3.5 that I can't 
do in KDE 4.  Even if I use KDE 4 for the most part, I would still have 
to have KDE 3.5 for the things I can't do in KDE 4.  This may be the 
reason the OP is keeping KDE 3.5 around as well.  KDE really dropped the 
ball this time. 

OP,  I would be willing to help you get this sorted out.  I could send 
the commands I remember using and it is not a bad or difficult thing.  I 
don't like using layman myself but I do want a working desktop too. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Philip Webb]

100102 Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> Unfortunately there are some apps that do not have KDE4 replacements.
>> While I understand the Gentoo devs decision to drop the KDE3 desktop
>> and apps from portage, kdelibs should be kept as long as there are apps
>> depending on it.  dropping all those apps is no the answer, not yet.
> Very true.  Even if I use KDE 4 for the most part,
> I would still have to have KDE 3.5 for the things I can't do in KDE 4.

I haven't installed the KDE desktop pkgs (I use Fluxbox),
but I'm having no problem using KDE 4 for most apps
-- eg Konsole Gwenview Okular Kshisen Speedcrunch -- ,
while retaining Kdelibs 3.5.10 &  3  apps not available in KDE 4
(Ksokoban Kworldclock not ported, Kmahjongg no removed-tiles display).
I just updated to KDE 4.3.3 & there doesn't seem to be anything wrong.

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 100102 Dale wrote:
>   
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>     
>>> Unfortunately there are some apps that do not have KDE4 replacements.
>>> While I understand the Gentoo devs decision to drop the KDE3 desktop
>>> and apps from portage, kdelibs should be kept as long as there are apps
>>> depending on it.  dropping all those apps is no the answer, not yet.
>>>       
>> Very true.  Even if I use KDE 4 for the most part,
>> I would still have to have KDE 3.5 for the things I can't do in KDE 4.
>>     
>
> I haven't installed the KDE desktop pkgs (I use Fluxbox),
> but I'm having no problem using KDE 4 for most apps
> -- eg Konsole Gwenview Okular Kshisen Speedcrunch -- ,
> while retaining Kdelibs 3.5.10 &  3  apps not available in KDE 4
> (Ksokoban Kworldclock not ported, Kmahjongg no removed-tiles display).
> I just updated to KDE 4.3.3 & there doesn't seem to be anything wrong.
>
>   

It appears that we use different things tho.  The only thing in your 
list that I use is Konsole.  I don't use any of the other programs you 
mention. 

I have tried KDE4 and continue to test when it updates but there are 
things that still don't work.  I posted the issues on the KDE mailing 
list and others reported the same thing so it is not just me or a config 
problem.  I'm just waiting on them to get it all sorted out. 

I do know this, if KDE does their next update this way, from KDE4 to 
KDE5, I'll be using something else.  It's like telling someone that they 
can trade in their car but they have to turn in the old one and drive it 
with no windshield and some other good things to have for months while 
they finish putting the new car together.  That may be a bad analogy but 
it was what I thought of.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Jon Hardcastle]

--- On Sat, 2/1/10, Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 12:05
> On Samstag 02 Januar 2010, Jon
> Hardcastle wrote:
> > Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to
> the emerge stage and i
> >  get this
> > 
> > !! All ebuilds that could satisfy
> "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" have been masked.
> > !!! One of the following masked packages is required
> to complete your
> >  request: - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked
> by: package.mask)
> > /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> > # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
> (31 Dec 2009)
> > # Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf >= 2.64,
> wv2 >= 0.4.0,
> > # several open security bugs, ...
> > #
> > # Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0
> > #
> > # See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429,
> 285018, 294676,
> > # 287276, 292791, ...
> > #
> > # Masked for removal in 30 days
> > #
> > 
> > 
> > does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the
> emerge but i dont
> >  really know what i am doing :-/
> > 
> > 
> > -----------------------
> > N: Jon Hardcastle
> > E: Jon@eHardcastle.com
> > 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring
> worries of its own.'
> > 
> > ***********
> > Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT
> yahoo.com and replacing it
> >  with jon AT eHardcastle.com ***********
> > 
> > -----------------------
> > 
> 
> 
> yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on.
> 
> 

What is the easiest way to do this? Although i dont agree this would perhaps normally be an option, installing kde was a venture that never really worked and as the machine is primarily a file server i can do without it...

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Helmut Jarausch]

On  2 Jan, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> 
> yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on.
> 

Very good idea, indeed.
Then, please, tell me a replacement for app-office/kexi.

Thanks!

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5

[Dale]

Jon Hardcastle wrote:
> Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i get this
>
> !! All ebuilds that could satisfy "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" have been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
> - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (31 Dec 2009)
> # Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf >= 2.64, wv2 >= 0.4.0,
> # several open security bugs, ...
> #
> # Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0
> #
> # See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429, 285018, 294676,
> # 287276, 292791, ...
> #
> # Masked for removal in 30 days
> #
>
>
> does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the emerge but i dont really know what i am doing :-/
>
>
> -----------------------
> N: Jon Hardcastle
> E: Jon@eHardcastle.com
> 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.'
>
> ***********
> Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com
> ***********
>
> -----------------------
>   

This is where you get to choose.  You either have to use layman to keep 
KDE 3.5 around or move over to KDE 4, which there are still some things 
that don't work.  KDE 3.5 has been masked and will be removed from the 
portage tree, according to the error above. 

You may be able to unmask it until it is removed but either way, you 
will have to use layman eventually.  If you plan to unmask it for now, I 
would check out autounmask.  I suspect there will be a lot of them 
masked.  Doing them one by one could take a while. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Don't blame Gentoo for this.  KDE is the one that decided not to 
maintain KDE 3.5 even tho KDE 4 is not ready yet.  The good thing about 
Gentoo is that it builds from sources.  The bad thing is, it builds from 
sources.  When the sources stop, Gentoo has to remove them.