[gentoo-user] subclipse???

[gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Mark Knecht]

What are the commands to find out if subclipse is supported through an overlay?

http://subclipse.tigris.org/

Thanks,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:53:20 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> What are the commands to find out if subclipse is supported through an
> overlay?

[root@zaphod ~ 0]% eix subclipse
* dev-util/eclipse-subclipse-bin [1]
     Available versions:  1.1.9!s 1.2.0!s
     Homepage:            http://subclipse.tigris.org/
     Description:         Subversion support for Eclipse (binary)

[1] "digital-trauma.de" layman/trauma

You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to the
eix database.


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 12:27:12 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:53:20 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > What are the commands to find out if subclipse is supported through an
> > overlay?
> 
> [root@zaphod ~ 0]% eix subclipse
> * dev-util/eclipse-subclipse-bin [1]
>      Available versions:  1.1.9!s 1.2.0!s
>      Homepage:            http://subclipse.tigris.org/
>      Description:         Subversion support for Eclipse (binary)
> 
> [1] "digital-trauma.de" layman/trauma
> 
> You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to the
> eix database.
> 

I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without installing 
the overlay first

eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays


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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
> > the eix database.
> >   
> 
> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
> installing the overlay first
> 
> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays

As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!

eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.

I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
eix found the ebuild for me.


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 14:21:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
> > > the eix database.
> >
> > I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
> > installing the overlay first
> >
> > eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
> 
> As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!
> 
> eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
> the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.
> 
> I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
> eix found the ebuild for me.
> 

well well whaddaya know

it works !


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 14:21:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> > > You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
>> > > the eix database.
>> >
>> > I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
>> > installing the overlay first
>> >
>> > eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
>>
>> As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!
>>
>> eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
>> the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.
>>
>> I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
>> eix found the ebuild for me.
>>
>
> well well whaddaya know
>
> it works !
>

Humm...so if I would have simply done exactly what Neil suggested I
would have seen it without actually installing the overlay? Cool.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 14:21:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>       
>>>>> You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
>>>>> the eix database.
>>>>>           
>>>> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
>>>> installing the overlay first
>>>>
>>>> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
>>>>         
>>> As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!
>>>
>>> eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
>>> the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.
>>>
>>> I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
>>> eix found the ebuild for me.
>>>
>>>       
>> well well whaddaya know
>>
>> it works !
>>
>>     
>
> Humm...so if I would have simply done exactly what Neil suggested I
> would have seen it without actually installing the overlay? Cool.
>
> - Mark
>
>   

Is this documented anywhere?  I would like to see how this works, 
without doing it just in case I mess up.  lol

Dale 

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 31 December 2009 00:40:24 Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 14:21:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>>>> You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
> >>>>> the eix database.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
> >>>> installing the overlay first
> >>>>
> >>>> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
> >>>
> >>> As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!
> >>>
> >>> eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
> >>> the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.
> >>>
> >>> I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
> >>> eix found the ebuild for me.
> >>
> >> well well whaddaya know
> >>
> >> it works !
> >
> > Humm...so if I would have simply done exactly what Neil suggested I
> > would have seen it without actually installing the overlay? Cool.
> >
> > - Mark
> 
> Is this documented anywhere?  I would like to see how this works,
> without doing it just in case I mess up.  lol
> 
> Dale


You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working (almost everyone here 
has that):

eix-remote -q update

eix <something>

tada!!


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 31 December 2009 00:40:24 Dale wrote:
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 14:21:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> >>>>> You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to
>> >>>>> the eix database.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without
>> >>>> installing the overlay first
>> >>>>
>> >>>> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
>> >>>
>> >>> As it's panto season now - Oh Yes It Will!
>> >>>
>> >>> eix-update reads installed overlays but eix-remote downloads a list of
>> >>> the contents of all layman overlays, giving exactly what Mark wants.
>> >>>
>> >>> I hadn't even heard of the trauma overlay, let alone installed it, yet
>> >>> eix found the ebuild for me.
>> >>
>> >> well well whaddaya know
>> >>
>> >> it works !
>> >
>> > Humm...so if I would have simply done exactly what Neil suggested I
>> > would have seen it without actually installing the overlay? Cool.
>> >
>> > - Mark
>>
>> Is this documented anywhere?  I would like to see how this works,
>> without doing it just in case I mess up.  lol
>>
>> Dale
>
>
> You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working (almost everyone here
> has that):
>
> eix-remote -q update
>
> eix <something>
>
> tada!!

I was like Dale which is why I didn't try it when Neil suggested it
this morning. eix-remote --help says it downloads eix-caches which to
someone who doesn't program this stuff sounded like something I
couldn't fix myself.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working (almost everyone here
>> has that):
>>
>> eix-remote -q update
>>
>> eix <something>
>>
>> tada!!
>>     
>
> I was like Dale which is why I didn't try it when Neil suggested it
> this morning. eix-remote --help says it downloads eix-caches which to
> someone who doesn't program this stuff sounded like something I
> couldn't fix myself.
>
> - Mark
>
>   

I still got my feathers on.  Uh, I'm chicken.  How would one undo this?  
As in, delete the stuff when it is not needed anymore.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 31 December 2009 04:17:10 Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working (almost
> >> everyone here has that):
> >>
> >> eix-remote -q update
> >>
> >> eix <something>
> >>
> >> tada!!
> >
> > I was like Dale which is why I didn't try it when Neil suggested it
> > this morning. eix-remote --help says it downloads eix-caches which to
> > someone who doesn't program this stuff sounded like something I
> > couldn't fix myself.
> >
> > - Mark
> 
> I still got my feathers on.  Uh, I'm chicken.  How would one undo this?
> As in, delete the stuff when it is not needed anymore.

eix-remote -h

man eix and search for eix-remote

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:01:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > Is this documented anywhere?  I would like to see how this works,
> > without doing it just in case I mess up.  lol

Try the eix man page. I know it's almost as hard to read as the mplayer
man page, but the information is there.

> You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working

Now there's a challenge for you Dale :)


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:01:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>   
>>> Is this documented anywhere?  I would like to see how this works,
>>> without doing it just in case I mess up.  lol
>>>       
>
> Try the eix man page. I know it's almost as hard to read as the mplayer
> man page, but the information is there.
>
>   
>> You can't cock it up. If you have eix and layman working
>>     
>
> Now there's a challenge for you Dale :)
>
>   

I was about to reply to Alans and say the same thing.  Are you guys SURE 
I can't screw this up?  o_O   I'm good at this you know.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:08:05 -0600, Dale wrote:

> > Now there's a challenge for you Dale :)

> I was about to reply to Alans and say the same thing.  Are you guys
> SURE I can't screw this up?  o_O 

Alan is, I'm not :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 12:27:12 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:53:20 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> > What are the commands to find out if subclipse is supported through an
>> > overlay?
>>
>> [root@zaphod ~ 0]% eix subclipse
>> * dev-util/eclipse-subclipse-bin [1]
>>      Available versions:  1.1.9!s 1.2.0!s
>>      Homepage:            http://subclipse.tigris.org/
>>      Description:         Subversion support for Eclipse (binary)
>>
>> [1] "digital-trauma.de" layman/trauma
>>
>> You need to run eix-remote -q update to have layman overlays added to the
>> eix database.
>>
>
> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without installing
> the overlay first
>
> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays

Yes, thanks Alan. That is what I was asking. I guess I should have
posted that eix subsclipse showed nothing on my machines:

dragonfly ~ # eix subclipse
No matches found.
dragonfly ~ #

After adding the trauma overlay with layman now I see it:

dragonfly ~ # layman -l
* trauma                    [Subversion]
(http://svn.digital-trauma.de/gentoo/trunk/               )
dragonfly ~ # eix subclipse
* dev-util/eclipse-subclipse-bin [1]
     Available versions:  1.1.9!s 1.2.0!s
     Homepage:            http://subclipse.tigris.org/
     Description:         Subversion support for Eclipse (binary)

[1] "digital-trauma.de" /usr/local/portage/layman/trauma
dragonfly ~ #

but how do I determine that it's in trauma in the first place?

This came up the other day where Grant was asking about rt-sources and
I was able to answer because I use it and knew which overlay to tell
him to add, but then I hit the wall myself and didn't know how to
figure this out short of adding all overlays which seemed silly.

I had hoped that layman would have a way to search non-installed
overlays but I didn't find that so I asked here.

And thanks to Neil who at least told me what overlay had a binary
version. Unfortunately it appears it an older version of subclipse
that's not intended for use with eclipse-3.5.

Thanks,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Zeerak Waseem]

The eix-remote -q  update command should take care of that. Try running it  
and searching for something that you know isn't in one of the overlays  
that you use :-)

On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:58:44 +0100, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 12:27:12 Neil Bothwick wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> I think he wants to know what overlay a given ebuild is in without  
>> installing
>> the overlay first
>>
>> eix wwon't show the contents of not-installed overlays
>
> Yes, thanks Alan. That is what I was asking. I guess I should have
> posted that eix subsclipse showed nothing on my machines:
>
> dragonfly ~ # eix subclipse
> No matches found.
> dragonfly ~ #
>
> After adding the trauma overlay with layman now I see it:
>
> dragonfly ~ # layman -l
> * trauma                    [Subversion]
> (http://svn.digital-trauma.de/gentoo/trunk/               )
> dragonfly ~ # eix subclipse
> * dev-util/eclipse-subclipse-bin [1]
>      Available versions:  1.1.9!s 1.2.0!s
>      Homepage:            http://subclipse.tigris.org/
>      Description:         Subversion support for Eclipse (binary)
>
> [1] "digital-trauma.de" /usr/local/portage/layman/trauma
> dragonfly ~ #
>
> but how do I determine that it's in trauma in the first place?
>
> This came up the other day where Grant was asking about rt-sources and
> I was able to answer because I use it and knew which overlay to tell
> him to add, but then I hit the wall myself and didn't know how to
> figure this out short of adding all overlays which seemed silly.
>
> I had hoped that layman would have a way to search non-installed
> overlays but I didn't find that so I asked here.
>
> And thanks to Neil who at least told me what overlay had a binary
> version. Unfortunately it appears it an older version of subclipse
> that's not intended for use with eclipse-3.5.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>

Re: [gentoo-user] subclipse???

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:58:44 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> but how do I determine that it's in trauma in the first place?

As I said in the first post, use eix-remote before eix.


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