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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:30:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200912021730.37356.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091202144816.GA4798@ca.inter.net>

On Wednesday 02 December 2009 16:48:16 Philip Webb wrote:
> 091202 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >>> Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given:
> >>> http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-cl
> >>>ear-of-gnu-patch-2-6
> >>
> >> I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later
> >> when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo.
> >> Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran 'emerge -e world'
> >> </sigh>
> >
> > Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too.
> > I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15
> > and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages.
> > After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages,
> > including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice.
> > Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have
> > on a source-based distro...
> 
>  2  pieces of advice to avoid such problems:
> (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs;
> (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag.


Balls.

Neither of those will fix anything and they are not even feasible for this.

I run ~amd64 for a reason, I want it that way. There is no known way to run 
amd64 for @system and ~amd64 for @world and still retain one's sanity.

Of course I ran emerge -p. Well actually I run emerge -a but the effect is the 
same - see what's going to be installed before it's installed. Until a week 
ago no-one knew the effects patch-2.6.0 would have so when it appears in the 
list there's no reason to not proceed.

Running amd64 isn't an option for me - this isn't one of my critical servers, 
it's my bleeding edge notebook and I like it the way it is. If I wanted to 
avoid problems like this I'd be using Ubuntu LTS instead.

I'm not whinging about patch. I run ~amd64 precisely to help detect such 
things. I'm miffed at my own bad luck - the first emerge -e world I've had to 
do in two years and I just happen to have done it in the two week window about 
this package. Most folk now have to rebuild 70 - 300 packages, I'm stuck with 
potentially 1472 <sigh>


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-02 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-01 16:02 [gentoo-user] Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug Nikos Chantziaras
2009-12-02 10:51 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-12-02 13:45   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-12-02 14:18     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-02 16:11       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-12-02 14:33     ` Kevin O'Gorman
2009-12-02 14:48     ` Philip Webb
2009-12-02 15:30       ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2009-12-02 15:49         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-12-02 17:59         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2009-12-02 20:04           ` Alan McKinnon
2009-12-02 20:54           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2009-12-02 16:12       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-12-02 16:21       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-02 16:46       ` felix
2009-12-04 23:02       ` daid kahl
2009-12-05  5:14         ` Philip Webb
2009-12-05  6:47           ` Dale
2009-12-05 13:31           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-12-05 14:10             ` Dale
2009-12-05 17:24               ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-06  1:15                 ` Dale
2009-12-06  2:21                   ` Philip Webb
2009-12-06  2:53                     ` daid kahl
2009-12-06  9:06                       ` Dale
2009-12-07 10:46                       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-07 10:48                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-07 11:18                     ` Dale
2009-12-05 15:08             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-05 16:10               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-12-05 19:09             ` Philip Webb
2009-12-05 20:14               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-12-06  6:20                 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-12-06  6:19               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-12-06 19:49                 ` Philip Webb
2009-12-07 11:01                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-07 22:46                     ` Philip Webb
2009-12-07 23:04                       ` Alan McKinnon
2009-12-08  0:17                         ` Dale
2009-12-08 11:19                         ` Arttu V.
2009-12-08  1:04                       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-12-05 16:05           ` daid kahl
2009-12-05 16:26           ` [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug, " Peter Humphrey
2009-12-06 10:59             ` Peter Humphrey
2009-12-06 14:11             ` Volker Armin Hemmann

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