From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NEX5n-0001rg-5Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:52:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1512FE062C; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f214.google.com (mail-ew0-f214.google.com [209.85.219.214]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA294E062C for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so1698707ewy.29 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=54YzWKXK+VwM4CiACIbipRcX9GdpC8LVM5DYu4FWPkQ=; b=bd6/LsmoRDtEDFsgCjNmy63tRBln9D6gUzPstkWTceibdQNKgjbZK2NNFWHb2wu2tT 43f0E9v0Oa5kppeUB+gZKrgO4FMTmCKbWhvBSK+9hOPuagZupFmU4T4wD1dSVerYaXSN nurDS89T534aPb7/Tbx6z+bYoqagp1umeH6o0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=oVvRtgTSiOefogi2pieKAuij4jBJPlHnJzFjrieG6xKUy81uPJQCWkTsU6lpFRNMpg U0sNAZ5Ti3vKpOoyJqceCvRnpM5IO9ETe9Ia26+bunVRCuLW8P3BHwbVfv6bxQHxa/Ca 9I8Kh30RfNzc4HeD8hf9XnO6adcJ4UukXACJ4= Received: by 10.213.23.154 with SMTP id r26mr2634265ebb.69.1259452323203; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lappy.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4517929eyh.32.2009.11.28.15.52.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:51:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r8; KDE/4.3.1; i686; ; ) References: <200911281932.37490.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200911282142.33561.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200911282142.33561.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3316234.oftdIESHM1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200911282352.00876.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 4c853107-791e-4257-8dba-9189eb28b18e X-Archives-Hash: 69a0757ade7b0b1fd4785825974adc0b --nextPart3316234.oftdIESHM1 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 28 November 2009 19:42:33 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 28 November 2009 21:32:28 Mick wrote: > > > I suppose one could make several useful -meta packages DEPEND on kate, > > > as many users want kate and do not want the entire kdesdk package. But > > > that causes the same app to appear in more than one -meta package and > > > the devs seem to want to avoid that - there is a strict one-to-one > > > mapping between what the -meta packages install and what is shipped in > > > the upstream tarballs by KDE > > > > Sorry I'm being rather dense with this ... are you saying that the > > DEPENDs listed when you run 'equery depends -a kate' are different to > > mine because you are running KDE4 from KDE-testing overlay, while I am > > running stable portage? >=20 > No, the contents of the -meta packages are pretty much the same between t= he > overlay and the official tree (apart from new apps added in the latest KDE > snapshots, and other minor things that get dropped in the new branch of > course). >=20 > The kde-testing overlay provides a collection of sets which the portage > tree does not do. The main set explicitly includes kate because it's part > of kdesdk and it's a bit rich to expect all users to install the entire > dev suite just to get a gui text editor. >=20 > The official tree has the same situation: >=20 > # grep kate /var/portage/kde-base/*-meta*/*4.3.3.ebuild > /var/portage/kde-base/kde-meta/kde-meta-4.3.3.ebuild: $(add_kdebase_dep > kate) > /var/portage/kde-base/kdesdk-meta/kdesdk-meta-4.3.3.ebuild: > $(add_kdebase_dep kate) >=20 > # cat /var/portage/kde-base/kde-meta/kde-meta-4.3.3.ebuild > ... > RDEPEND=3D" > $(add_kdebase_dep kate) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeadmin-meta) > ... >=20 > To give kate to users, it was added to kde-meta, and it's the only explic= it > DEPEND in the ebuild, everything else is the smaller -meta packages. >=20 > To get kate, you must do one of: > 1. emerge kde-meta (or the @kde set) > 2. emerge kdesdk (or the @kdesdk set) > 3. emerge kate Thank you kindly for persevering - the logic is clear to me now. :-) =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart3316234.oftdIESHM1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAksRt6AACgkQVTDTR3kpaLYKwwCdElmn+PQMGZtSpQyKYBUEU2cs X4kAnjHiqUE6C54mZtr7H33eZBPHiO5N =C2Ir -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3316234.oftdIESHM1--