From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NEN37-000100-3K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:09:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D1B6E0778; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17EE0778 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29867F12 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:08:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 required=5.5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1enTbUv0U+9e for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com (mail-ew0-f223.google.com [209.85.219.223]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9619367EDA for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so2511435ewy.24 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:08:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=Fp0kadwX3O69SPgZkWxy+F2kYAXM+nj2daaLndJCYXA=; b=dNGUePSKRrytFydD2bQ04RcMBpWIuMUFpymAT+t+P/ge2vxkztN/TjFx9f1ig5OFqK 8DR1dGTobnik20cRr+gvKp8IqRotmCixA8b1NUoeECQaSRuygO7KJ2sL8qgH/S9tQyVB wbXxd8AlvM+ijpUGxpR6okRZMdvGsjghemZi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=JKJXRv03xgkbper3uA5BuZIcee69Mseq4m9SHcA+SFNcfc+gQoX58VowqtPHQy0Pph Nwl6P8CWYBXDUsm0zeAFmHFkGioeJ/GDDRUQ9n1mM5DSiPXRGQlJPKkkFGfLUe8XMkSV nu2lwdXF9TBqwc3KNh8XmQ+WNGY7Piv288UkE= Received: by 10.213.2.70 with SMTP id 6mr2158288ebi.25.1259413689312; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-68-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm1518582ewy.9.2009.11.28.05.08.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: FIXED: Re: KDE3 removal Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:07:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (Linux/2.6.31-zen8; KDE/4.3.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <200911280015.38315.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200911281507.01966.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 1f742d28-ce2e-4281-bc48-1dc29be0efdc X-Archives-Hash: 8ca4b75e0fd94548e023a2bcc548b189 On Saturday 28 November 2009 13:59:38 J=F6rg Schaible wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 27 November 2009 23:07:25 J=F6rg Schaible wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > On Thursday 26 November 2009 19:34:34 James wrote: > >> >> kde-4.3.1 went smooth, except > >> >> for I have to manually removed all the kde-3.5 packages. > >> >> It had kde-meta-3.5.10. Is there some syntax or a better > >> >> method to insure all the kde-3.5.x packages are removed, > >> >> without a manual sweep? > >> > > >> > grep kde /var/lib/portage/world > >> > and eyeball the output. There should only be -meta packages, and > >> > individual packages for which you have NOT installed the -meta > >> > package, in there. vi the world file and remove the stuff that > >> > shouldn't be there, then > >> > > >> > emerge -C && emerge -a --depclean > >> > >> as alternative simply append to all kde-base/* packages in world :4.3 > >> and do then a depclean ;-) > > > > Which promptly defeats the ENTIRE purpose of a world file and -meta > > packages. >=20 > a) I've never used the meta packages, but selected my KDE apps on purpose You missed the part where the user clearly states earlier that he DOES use= =20 =2Dmeta packages. With that in mind, any advice you give should be aligned = to=20 the fact that he is a -meta user > b) it's a lot easier this way to get rid of the KDE 3 stuff, however you > should get drop of the slot again after depclean has been finished How is it easier? You have to maintain the SLOTs in world yourself because = the=20 instant you do that portage will not automagically offer to upgrade anymore= =20 (upgrades within the same slot excepted). And --depclean will NOT adjust yo= ur=20 SLOTs in world when it's finished. I can't really make sense of your last=20 sentence but that is what you seem to imply > > If that's how you want to admin your box, >=20 > I am using long enough Gentoo that I remember very well the times when > portage destroyed the world file completely.=20 That was long ago and no longer applicable. That bug in portage got fixed, = so=20 a behaviour on your part to compensate for a bug that is not there is outda= ted=20 behaviour. > And regenworld put *anything* > into world at that time. Therefore I know very well, what should be in th= is > file and what not. There's no magic. Yes, the only things in world are packages you want that are not dependenci= es=20 of something else already in world. You are advising the user to put the=20 dependencies of -meta packages into world when the -meta package is already= =20 there. And that is plain silly =20 > > can I recommend you switch to > > sabayon instead? >=20 > ROFL! So, you mean, if users get too smart, Gentoo is no longer their > distribution? Don't be silly. Erm, you should read the whole thread and realise the bits you missed - the= =20 bits that make your statements nonsensical =2D-=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com