From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N9bxr-000507-DR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:04:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08689E09BA for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.146]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FDEE07CC for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1277012eyh.40 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:27:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=camZnd4zDTrzO9eoD7/ScDFZXcz5U3hBg7tM3t7Ji6k=; b=oFz4v2UkNc+S9IGNjI5nfsBhO9AhfTPWndDXvRCsU/C+pPQa/9Yu3uIznfblR1qH7O 0vkTVLKeWsmkPYyErHBImRxBfJNK0qciy3/GV4+2QRaQEgoYzA4iK4JdDD99PIrafkhZ LTVPeUANv0C/eMjVMFyF4Tb2+Q4rxajWz4HQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=qHEHqh/dgVLAMykPsjGy1REgtzMbEZQz4oFfbyN3IPDvjQtVIv43TcvY1MCjhtltAq Au+6MCks7+EJ5qBnf7aQk4g3mBER6lA6VDvxhYHcdcDWSp1GTYLkV1oCmTgFcjHwvGCi aqzIWaG/N/WSyqHWP53Dd9K8gII1ro4NnFy74= Received: by 10.213.23.210 with SMTP id s18mr1144108ebb.1.1258273651227; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-114-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm4219529eyz.11.2009.11.15.00.27.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Block root user from login on xorg GUI Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:26:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.90 (Linux/2.6.31-zen7; KDE/4.3.74; x86_64; ; ) References: <200911122001.57860.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200911142246.44419.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <28BB57B2-61EB-4A5C-97CF-6F6C0D582FE3@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <28BB57B2-61EB-4A5C-97CF-6F6C0D582FE3@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200911151026.29090.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 25f5a5a7-62b0-48b8-acb2-97772d0a2a2e X-Archives-Hash: 20d36836474b7f70ae793df41e162174 On Sunday 15 November 2009 07:15:43 Stroller wrote: > On 14 Nov 2009, at 20:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> ... > >> You are right of course, but in this particular case the guy who pays > >> wants to have root access. > > > > And you agreed to work like that? > > > > So when he fucks things up good royal and proper, will he gladly > > accept his > > shafting and pay you more to undo it? Or will he do the usual > > customer stunt > > and blame you? > > My typical experience is that the customer will take it completely on > the chin and pay me to fix the problems. That doesn't make foul-ups > due to such unnecessary meddling any less frustrating, though. My experience has been completely the opposite, same with just about everyone else I work with. But, this is a third-world country pretending to be a first- world country, and the cowboy attitude is very prevalent here. > One has to hope, really, that the client only wants the root password > as insurance in case you get run over by a bus, and won't use it to > arbitrarily mess about on the system. I find the root password in a sealed envelope in the safe is the ideal insurance for that. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com