[gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati 
drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i 
moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D 
acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 
640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 
1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati
> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.

they, have but X is broken.

> When i
> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D

they have. You are just using an old version.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
highlight-.html

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with 
>> ati
>> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>
> they, have but X is broken.
>
>> When i
>> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>
> they have. You are just using an old version.
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
> highlight-.html
>

What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
> 
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> >> ati
> >> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> >> When i
> >> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >asc- highlight-.html
> 
> What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
> 

is correct link.

Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and nvidia 
drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge. 
Just read the thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
>> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>>
>> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> >> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>> >> ati
>> >> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>> >
>> > they, have but X is broken.
>> >
>> >> When i
>> >> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>> >
>> > they have. You are just using an old version.
>> >
>> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
>> >asc- highlight-.html
>>
>> What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
>>
>
> is correct link.
>
> Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and 
> nvidia
> drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge.
> Just read the thread.
>

Thank you much. Link correct. ^) 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> 
> they, have but X is broken.
> 
> > When i
> > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> 
> they have. You are just using an old version.
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-as
> c- highlight-.html
> 
I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in 
/usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No matches 
found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package 
atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >as c- highlight-.html
> 
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
>  valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is 
not a valid package atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde
> > >r- as c- highlight-.html
> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> >  valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 
> eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
>  is not a valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

what are you doing with eix?
(besides, is eix setup correctly? check eixrc)

and emerge see the other mail.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >as c- highlight-.html
> 
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
>  valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?

try 
emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde
> > >r- as c- highlight-.html
> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> >  valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 
> and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> 
> try
> emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> 
I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage 
and unpack files.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > acceleration.
> > > >
> > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > >
> > > > > When i
> > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > > >
> > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postor
> > > >de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > >
> > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> > >  valid package atom.
> > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >
> > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >
> > try
> > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> 
> I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage
> and unpack files.
> 

yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the 
instructions.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > > acceleration.
> > > > >
> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i
> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > 3D
> > > > >
> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-post
> > > > >or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > >
> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not
> > > > a valid package atom.
> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > >
> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > >
> > > try
> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >
> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> 
> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> instructions.
> 
I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to 
satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > > 3D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-po
> > > > > >st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > >
> > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > >
> > > > try
> > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > >
> > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >
> > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > instructions.
> 
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.

Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent 
unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as things 
have changed since the instructions were written.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-
> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> 
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
>  things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 

the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can download 
several different versions.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:07:07 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-
> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
> the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
> Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can
>  download several different versions.
> 
Why? I unpack in /usr/local/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-
> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> 
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
>  things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any version 
in /usr/local/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-
> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
> I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
>  version in /usr/local/portage
> 

just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about it. 
It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon 
написал:
> > > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary
> > > > > > > > > > driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver
> > > > > > > > > > have not 3D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postday
> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> >  version in /usr/local/portage
> 
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
>  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in make.conf. 
Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from amd.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon 
написал:
> > > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary
> > > > > > > > > > driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver
> > > > > > > > > > have not 3D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postday
> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> >  version in /usr/local/portage
> 
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
>  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in make.conf. 
Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from amd.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:

> >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
> I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
>  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from
>  amd.
> 

and you are using WHICH driver?

if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> >
> > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver
> > from amd.
> 
> and you are using WHICH driver?
> 
> if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> 
When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as 
opensource driver.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 02:11:55 Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> > >
> > > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> > >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver
> > > from amd.
> >
> > and you are using WHICH driver?
> >
> > if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> 
> When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
> opensource driver.


You didn't answer his question.

Tip: There's big capital letters in it.

Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this thread, 
the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts around here 
if you want help.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 09:33:56 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 02:11:55 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> > > >
> > > > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> > > >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use
> > > > driver from amd.
> > >
> > > and you are using WHICH driver?
> > >
> > > if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> >
> > When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
> > opensource driver.
> 
> You didn't answer his question.
> 
> Tip: There's big capital letters in it.
> 
> Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this
>  thread, the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts
>  around here if you want help.
> 
I use ATI Catalyst™ 9.10 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Igor <igwasm@rambler.ru> wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> написал:
>> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>> >
>> > написал:
>> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
>> > > > Hemmann
>> > > >
>> > > > написал:
>> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
>> > > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
>> > > > > > acceleration.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > When i
>> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
>> > > > > > 3D
>> > > > >
>> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-post
>> > > > >or de r- as c- highlight-.html
>> > > >
>> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
>> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>> > > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not
>> > > > a valid package atom.
>> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>> > >
>> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
>> > >
>> > > try
>> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
>> >
>> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
>> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
>>
>> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
>> instructions.
>>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>
>

Post back the results of

eix xorg-server

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:59:45 автор Mark Knecht написал:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Igor <igwasm@rambler.ru> wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> >> > Hemmann
> >> >
> >> > написал:
> >> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> >> > > > Hemmann
> >> > > >
> >> > > > написал:
> >> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> >> > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> >> > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > When i
> >> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> >> > > > > > not 3D
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-p
> >> > > > >ost or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> >> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> >> > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> >> > > > is not a valid package atom.
> >> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >> > >
> >> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >> > >
> >> > > try
> >> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >> >
> >> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> >> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >>
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Post back the results of
> 
> eix xorg-server
> 
> - Mark
> 
Available versions:  1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5 ~1.7.1
Installed versions:  1.6.3.901-r2

[gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> написал:
>>  [...]
>> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
>> instructions.
>>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated 
than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the 
patch here:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html

This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not 
just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.

Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on 
moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It 
only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras 
написал:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow 
in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> 
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> 

as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and 
screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in 
their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
>
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local 
> > overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
>
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
>

>as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
>screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers 
>in
>their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t 
must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open 
source driver work fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> >
> > написал:
> > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > >>  [...]
> > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > >> instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > > patch here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > >
> > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > overlay.
> > >
> > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> >
> > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> >
> >
> >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
> >screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers
> >in
> >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> 
> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open
> source driver work fine.
> 

that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
>
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> >
> > написал:
> > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > >>  [...]
> > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > >> instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no 
> > > > ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > > patch here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > >
> > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > overlay.
> > >
> > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> >
> > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> >
> >
> >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
> >screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the 
> >fingers
> >in
> >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
>
> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. 
> Open
> source driver work fine.
>

>that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in 
other distrs linux.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> >
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > >>  [...]
> > > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow
> > > > >> the instructions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no
> > > > > ebuilds
> > > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > > >
> > > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more
> > > > complicated than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of
> > > > applying the patch here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > > >
> > > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > > overlay.
> > > >
> > > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load
> > > > on moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation.
> > > > It only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> > >
> > > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> > >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> > >
> > >
> > >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers
> > > and screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the
> > > fingers
> > >in
> > >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> >
> > I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> > must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers.
> > Open
> > source driver work fine.
> >
> >
> >that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.
> 
> Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in
> other distrs linux.
> 

look at the patch and google a bit. There has been a lot of talk about this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 

indeed., except all xorg-server versions are covered in that thread ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati 
> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i 
> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D 
> acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 
> 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 
> 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.

I don't know the HD3850 card.

From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver? 

The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later, 
as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to include
support for any products earlier than this.
Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI Project or Utah-GLX project.

Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
including googleearth.

But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
xorg-server-1.7.1

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to
> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
> 
> I don't know the HD3850 card.
> 
> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
> 
> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
> 
> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later,
> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>  include support for any products earlier than this.
> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
> 
> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
> including googleearth.
> 
> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
> xorg-server-1.7.1
> 
> Helmut.
> 

I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source
> > > driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard
> > > settings falls to 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then
> > > settings returns to my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
> >
> > I don't know the HD3850 card.
> >
> > >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
> >
> > 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
> >
> > The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and
> > later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently
> > plan to include support for any products earlier than this.
> > Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
> >  Project or Utah-GLX project.
> >
> > Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
> > Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
> > including googleearth.
> >
> > But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
> > xorg-server-1.7.1
> >
> > Helmut.
> 
> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
> 

on the AMD homepage.

Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by 
9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12

Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> > On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem 
>> > > with
>> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
>> > > acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source
>> > > driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard
>> > > settings falls to 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then
>> > > settings returns to my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>> >
>> > I don't know the HD3850 card.
>> >
>> > >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>> >
>> > 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>> >
>> > The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and
>> > later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently
>> > plan to include support for any products earlier than this.
>> > Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>> >  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>> >
>> > Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>> > Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>> > including googleearth.
>> >
>> > But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>> > xorg-server-1.7.1
>> >
>> > Helmut.
>>
>> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
>> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
>>
>
> on the AMD homepage.
>
> Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by
> 9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12
>
> Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d.
>

What the patch? Give me more information, please. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:

> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
> 

I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is 
there.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>
>> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
>>
>
> I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
> there.
>

But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
> 
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> >> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
> >
> > I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
> > there.
> 
> But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
> 

wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'?

just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you are 
done.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
>> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>>
>> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> >> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
>> >
>> > I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything 
>> > is
>> > there.
>>
>> But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
>>
>
> wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'?
>
> just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you 
> are
> done.
>

Very fun. ^) 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
>> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to
>> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>> 
>> I don't know the HD3850 card.
>> 
>> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>> 
>> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>> 
>> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later,
>> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>>  include support for any products earlier than this.
>> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>> 
>> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>> including googleearth.
>> 
>> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>> xorg-server-1.7.1
>> 
>> Helmut.
>> 
> 
> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
> 
That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after
having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed.
The you can find it under
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helmut Jarausch" <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>>> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>>> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D 
>>> > acceleration.
>>> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 
>>> > 3D
>>> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
>>> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns 
>>> > to
>>> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>>>
>>> I don't know the HD3850 card.
>>>
>>> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>>>
>>> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>>>
>>> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and 
>>> later,
>>> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>>>  include support for any products earlier than this.
>>> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>>>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>>>
>>> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>>> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>>> including googleearth.
>>>
>>> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>>> xorg-server-1.7.1
>>>
>>> Helmut.
>>>
>>
>> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
>> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
>>
> That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after
> having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed.
> The you can find it under
> /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html
> /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html
>
> Helmut.
>
> -- 
> Helmut Jarausch
>
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
>

But i have very high cpu loads in 2D. 

[gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[James]

Igor <igwasm <at> rambler.ru> writes:

> I would use kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.10 every now and then to check networks, 
> IP address, or strength of signal when I would not use iwconfig or iwlist. 
> This will be removed soon, so what is the KDE4 equivalent?


Great timing, as I need to revisit my wireless options and
strategies on several laptops.

One can always look at the options:
'ls /usr/portage/net-wireless'

but, it is nice when folks comment on what works well with
kde4, as that is my issue too.


http://gentoo-portage.com/net-wireless/
gives a great interface and let's you know a bit more info.

net-wireless/waveselect
looks promising?
Do post back what you end up using.....

hth,
James