[gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati 
drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i 
moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D 
acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 
640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 
1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati
> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.

they, have but X is broken.

> When i
> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D

they have. You are just using an old version.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
highlight-.html

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with 
>> ati
>> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>
> they, have but X is broken.
>
>> When i
>> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>
> they have. You are just using an old version.
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
> highlight-.html
>

What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
> 
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> >> ati
> >> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> >> When i
> >> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >asc- highlight-.html
> 
> What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
> 

is correct link.

Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and nvidia 
drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge. 
Just read the thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
>> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>>
>> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> >> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>> >> ati
>> >> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>> >
>> > they, have but X is broken.
>> >
>> >> When i
>> >> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>> >
>> > they have. You are just using an old version.
>> >
>> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
>> >asc- highlight-.html
>>
>> What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
>>
>
> is correct link.
>
> Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and 
> nvidia
> drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge.
> Just read the thread.
>

Thank you much. Link correct. ^) 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> 
> they, have but X is broken.
> 
> > When i
> > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> 
> they have. You are just using an old version.
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-as
> c- highlight-.html
> 
I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in 
/usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No matches 
found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package 
atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >as c- highlight-.html
> 
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
>  valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is 
not a valid package atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 23:41:24 автор Igor написал:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde
> > >r- as c- highlight-.html
> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> >  valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 
> eix write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
>  is not a valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

what are you doing with eix?
(besides, is eix setup correctly? check eixrc)

and emerge see the other mail.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration.
> >
> > they, have but X is broken.
> >
> > > When i
> > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> >
> > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-
> >as c- highlight-.html
> 
> I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
>  valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 

and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?

try 
emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > acceleration.
> > >
> > > they, have but X is broken.
> > >
> > > > When i
> > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > >
> > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorde
> > >r- as c- highlight-.html
> >
> > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> >  valid package atom.
> > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> 
> and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> 
> try
> emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> 
I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage 
and unpack files.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > acceleration.
> > > >
> > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > >
> > > > > When i
> > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > > >
> > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postor
> > > >de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > >
> > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a
> > >  valid package atom.
> > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >
> > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >
> > try
> > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> 
> I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make /usr/local/portage
> and unpack files.
> 

yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the 
instructions.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
> > > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > > > > acceleration.
> > > > >
> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > > When i
> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > 3D
> > > > >
> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-post
> > > > >or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > >
> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
> > > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not
> > > > a valid package atom.
> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > >
> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > >
> > > try
> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >
> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> 
> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> instructions.
> 
I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to 
satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
> > > > > > > 3D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-po
> > > > > >st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > >
> > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > >
> > > > try
> > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > >
> > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >
> > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > instructions.
> 
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.

Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent 
unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as things 
have changed since the instructions were written.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-
> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> 
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
>  things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 

the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can download 
several different versions.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:07:07 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-
> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
> the problem is he is unpacking in the wrong directory.
> Also he has been using 1.6.3.901 before - and on that thread he can
>  download several different versions.
> 
Why? I unpack in /usr/local/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-
> > > > > > >po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> > > > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> > > > > > is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > >
> > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > >
> > > > > try
> > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > >
> > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > >
> > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> 
> Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very recent
> unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore as
>  things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any version 
in /usr/local/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> > > > > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> > > > > > > > > not 3D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-
> > > > > > > >0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > >
> > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > >
> > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> >
> > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that anymore
> > as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> 
> I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
>  version in /usr/local/portage
> 

just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about it. 
It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon 
написал:
> > > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary
> > > > > > > > > > driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver
> > > > > > > > > > have not 3D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postday
> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> >  version in /usr/local/portage
> 
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
>  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in make.conf. 
Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from amd.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 01:51:34 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:57:48 автор Alan McKinnon 
написал:
> > > On Thursday 12 November 2009 23:55:02 Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > > Hemmann
> > > > > >
> > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker
> > > > > > > > Armin Hemmann
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > написал:
> > > > > > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> > > > > > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary
> > > > > > > > > > driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When i
> > > > > > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver
> > > > > > > > > > have not 3D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postday
> > > > > > > > >s- 0- po st or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> > > > > > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage"
> > > > > > > > write "No matches found". And emerge - "!!!
> > > > > > > > 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not a valid package atom.
> > > > > > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> > > > > > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > So then pick the version that you DO have that's closest.
> > >
> > > Because obviously the instructions are telling you to install a very
> > > recent unstable version, and you equally obvious do not have that
> > > anymore as things have changed since the instructions were written.
> >
> > I have 1.6.3.901-r2 now. And trying 1.6.3.901-r99. eix don`t show any
> >  version in /usr/local/portage
> 
> just because you unpack sopmething somewhere does not make eix know about
>  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in make.conf. 
Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from amd.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:

> >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> 
> I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
>  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver from
>  amd.
> 

and you are using WHICH driver?

if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann 
написал:
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> >
> > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver
> > from amd.
> 
> and you are using WHICH driver?
> 
> if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> 
When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as 
opensource driver.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 13 November 2009 02:11:55 Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> 
> написал:
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> > >
> > > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> > >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use driver
> > > from amd.
> >
> > and you are using WHICH driver?
> >
> > if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> 
> When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
> opensource driver.


You didn't answer his question.

Tip: There's big capital letters in it.

Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this thread, 
the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts around here 
if you want help.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 09:33:56 автор Alan McKinnon написал:
> On Friday 13 November 2009 02:11:55 Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 02:45:36 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> > > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > > >  it. It only knows about it after the next sync/emerge.
> > > >
> > > > I solve this problem. Add PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in
> > > >  make.conf. Now i have 1.6.3.901-r99. But CPU 95% anyway. I use
> > > > driver from amd.
> > >
> > > and you are using WHICH driver?
> > >
> > > if you use kde - disable effects temporary and turn them back on.
> >
> > When i switch on effects then cpu loads max on 40%. It better but not as
> > opensource driver.
> 
> You didn't answer his question.
> 
> Tip: There's big capital letters in it.
> 
> Another tip: If we wrote code the way you answered questions in this
>  thread, the code would never run. You have to answer questions with facts
>  around here if you want help.
> 
I use ATI Catalyst™ 9.10 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Igor <igwasm@rambler.ru> wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> написал:
>> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
>> >
>> > написал:
>> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
>> > > > Hemmann
>> > > >
>> > > > написал:
>> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem
>> > > > > > with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
>> > > > > > acceleration.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > When i
>> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not
>> > > > > > 3D
>> > > > >
>> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-post
>> > > > >or de r- as c- highlight-.html
>> > > >
>> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
>> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write "No
>> > > >  matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99' is not
>> > > > a valid package atom.
>> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
>> > >
>> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
>> > >
>> > > try
>> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
>> >
>> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
>> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
>>
>> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
>> instructions.
>>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
>
>

Post back the results of

eix xorg-server

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:59:45 автор Mark Knecht написал:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Igor <igwasm@rambler.ru> wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:05:45 автор Volker Armin
> >> > Hemmann
> >> >
> >> > написал:
> >> > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > В сообщении от Четверг 12 ноября 2009 14:53:53 автор Volker Armin
> >> > > > Hemmann
> >> > > >
> >> > > > написал:
> >> > > > > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> >> > > > > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have
> >> > > > > > problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver
> >> > > > > > have not 2D acceleration.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they, have but X is broken.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > When i
> >> > > > > > moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have
> >> > > > > > not 3D
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > they have. You are just using an old version.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-p
> >> > > > >ost or de r- as c- highlight-.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I download xorg-server-1.6.3.901-with-patch.tar. Unpack it in
> >> > > > /usr/local/portage. But "eix unpack in /usr/local/portage" write
> >> > > > "No matches found". And emerge - "!!! 'xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99'
> >> > > > is not a valid package atom.
> >> > > > !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details."
> >> > >
> >> > > and /usr/local/portage is your overlay directory?
> >> > >
> >> > > try
> >> > > emerge  =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99
> >> >
> >> > I had not /usr/local/portage, only  /usr/portage. I make
> >> > /usr/local/portage and unpack files.
> >>
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Post back the results of
> 
> eix xorg-server
> 
> - Mark
> 
Available versions:  1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5 ~1.7.1
Installed versions:  1.6.3.901-r2

[gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> написал:
>>  [...]
>> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
>> instructions.
>>
> I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."

Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated 
than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the 
patch here:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html

This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not 
just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.

Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on 
moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It 
only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Igor]

В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras 
написал:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow 
in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> 
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> 

as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and 
screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in 
their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
>
> написал:
> > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > Hemmann
> > >
> > > написал:
> > >>  [...]
> > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > >> instructions.
> > >
> > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> >
> > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > patch here:
> >
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> >
> > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local 
> > overlay.
> >
> > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
>
> Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
>  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
>

>as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
>screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers 
>in
>their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.

I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t 
must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open 
source driver work fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> >
> > написал:
> > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > >>  [...]
> > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > >> instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > > patch here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > >
> > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > overlay.
> > >
> > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> >
> > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> >
> >
> >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
> >screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers
> >in
> >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> 
> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open
> source driver work fine.
> 

that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.


On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
>
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> >
> > написал:
> > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > Hemmann
> > > >
> > > > написал:
> > > >>  [...]
> > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> > > >> instructions.
> > > >
> > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no 
> > > > ebuilds
> > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > >
> > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> > > than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> > > patch here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > >
> > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > overlay.
> > >
> > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> > > moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> > > only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> >
> > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> >
> >
> >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and
> >screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the 
> >fingers
> >in
> >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
>
> I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. 
> Open
> source driver work fine.
>

>that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.

Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in 
other distrs linux.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> 
> On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
> >
> > On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras
> > >
> > > написал:
> > > > On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > > > > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin
> > > > > Hemmann
> > > > >
> > > > > написал:
> > > > >>  [...]
> > > > >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow
> > > > >> the instructions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no
> > > > > ebuilds
> > > > > to satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> > > >
> > > > Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more
> > > > complicated than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of
> > > > applying the patch here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> > > >
> > > > This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> > > > just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local
> > > > overlay.
> > > >
> > > > Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load
> > > > on moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation.
> > > > It only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> > >
> > > Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very
> > >  slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org?
> > >
> > >
> > >as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers
> > > and screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the
> > > fingers
> > >in
> > >their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala.
> >
> > I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t
> > must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers.
> > Open
> > source driver work fine.
> >
> >
> >that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory.
> 
> Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in
> other distrs linux.
> 

look at the patch and google a bit. There has been a lot of talk about this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Freitag 13 November 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote:
> > В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann
> >
> > написал:
> >>  [...]
> >> yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I strictly follow the instructions. But "emerge: there are no ebuilds to
> > satisfy "=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99"."
> 
> Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated
> than it needs to be.  You can find an easier method of applying the
> patch here:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html
> 
> This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not
> just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay.
> 
> Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on
> moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It
> only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows.
> 

indeed., except all xorg-server versions are covered in that thread ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati 
> drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i 
> moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D 
> acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 
> 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 
> 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.

I don't know the HD3850 card.

From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver? 

The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later, 
as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to include
support for any products earlier than this.
Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI Project or Utah-GLX project.

Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
including googleearth.

But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
xorg-server-1.7.1

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Igor]

On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to
> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
> 
> I don't know the HD3850 card.
> 
> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
> 
> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
> 
> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later,
> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>  include support for any products earlier than this.
> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
> 
> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
> including googleearth.
> 
> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
> xorg-server-1.7.1
> 
> Helmut.
> 

I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
> > > acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source
> > > driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard
> > > settings falls to 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then
> > > settings returns to my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
> >
> > I don't know the HD3850 card.
> >
> > >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
> >
> > 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
> >
> > The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and
> > later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently
> > plan to include support for any products earlier than this.
> > Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
> >  Project or Utah-GLX project.
> >
> > Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
> > Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
> > including googleearth.
> >
> > But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
> > xorg-server-1.7.1
> >
> > Helmut.
> 
> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
> 

on the AMD homepage.

Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by 
9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12

Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote:
>> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> > On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> > > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem 
>> > > with
>> > > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D
>> > > acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source
>> > > driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard
>> > > settings falls to 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then
>> > > settings returns to my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>> >
>> > I don't know the HD3850 card.
>> >
>> > >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>> >
>> > 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>> >
>> > The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and
>> > later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently
>> > plan to include support for any products earlier than this.
>> > Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>> >  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>> >
>> > Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>> > Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>> > including googleearth.
>> >
>> > But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>> > xorg-server-1.7.1
>> >
>> > Helmut.
>>
>> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
>> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
>>
>
> on the AMD homepage.
>
> Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by
> 9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12
>
> Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d.
>

What the patch? Give me more information, please. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:

> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
> 

I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is 
there.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>
>> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
>>
>
> I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
> there.
>

But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted. 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
> 
> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
> >> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
> >
> > I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is
> > there.
> 
> But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
> 

wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'?

just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you are 
done.

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
>> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
>>
>> > On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote:
>> >> What the patch? Give me more information, please.
>> >
>> > I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything 
>> > is
>> > there.
>>
>> But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
>>
>
> wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'?
>
> just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you 
> are
> done.
>

Very fun. ^) 

Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration.
>> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D
>> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
>> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to
>> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>> 
>> I don't know the HD3850 card.
>> 
>> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>> 
>> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>> 
>> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later,
>> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>>  include support for any products earlier than this.
>> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>> 
>> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>> including googleearth.
>> 
>> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>> xorg-server-1.7.1
>> 
>> Helmut.
>> 
> 
> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
> 
That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after
having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed.
The you can find it under
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html
/usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html

Helmut.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.

[igwasm]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helmut Jarausch" <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.


> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>> On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>> On 12 Nov, Igor wrote:
>>> > Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with
>>> > ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D 
>>> > acceleration.
>>> > When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 
>>> > 3D
>>> > acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to
>>> > 640x480@60Hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns 
>>> > to
>>> > my 1024x768@85Hz. Help me with settings.
>>>
>>> I don't know the HD3850 card.
>>>
>>> >From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ
>>>
>>> 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver?
>>>
>>> The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and 
>>> later,
>>> as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to
>>>  include support for any products earlier than this.
>>> Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI
>>>  Project or Utah-GLX project.
>>>
>>> Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 .
>>> Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast
>>> including googleearth.
>>>
>>> But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with
>>> xorg-server-1.7.1
>>>
>>> Helmut.
>>>
>>
>> I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11-
>> drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ?
>>
> That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after
> having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed.
> The you can find it under
> /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html
> /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html
>
> Helmut.
>
> -- 
> Helmut Jarausch
>
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
>

But i have very high cpu loads in 2D. 

[gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.

[James]

Igor <igwasm <at> rambler.ru> writes:

> I would use kde-base/kwifimanager-3.5.10 every now and then to check networks, 
> IP address, or strength of signal when I would not use iwconfig or iwlist. 
> This will be removed soon, so what is the KDE4 equivalent?


Great timing, as I need to revisit my wireless options and
strategies on several laptops.

One can always look at the options:
'ls /usr/portage/net-wireless'

but, it is nice when folks comment on what works well with
kde4, as that is my issue too.


http://gentoo-portage.com/net-wireless/
gives a great interface and let's you know a bit more info.

net-wireless/waveselect
looks promising?
Do post back what you end up using.....

hth,
James

[gentoo-user] ATI drivers

[Daniel D Jones]

I have an ATI Radeon 9600 XT driving dual monitors.  I had the setup working 
fine with the ati-driver binary drivers - single desktop spanning the two 
monitors with xinerama.  Dialog boxes appeared in the center of whichever 
monitor I was on.  Maximizing a window maximized it to the monitor, not the 
full desktop.

A few weeks back, an upgrade to the ati-driver package broke the setup.  The 
monitor running on the DVI output quit displaying.  When I started X, I'd get 
the left screen, running on the VGA output.  X thought the right screen was 
there - the mouse would disappear to that side, I could move windows over 
there, etc. but I had no display.  When I first boot up, I get a mirrored 
text display - the same output on both monitors. After he upgrade to the 
ati-drivers, I'd get that on initial bootup but once I started X, the right 
monitor was asleep until I rebooted.  Dropping out of X didn't wake it back 
up.

After a bit of fiddling and digging and Googling, I put a line in package.mask 
to block the new version of ati-drivers, unmerged and re-emerged the package 
and got my desktop back working just as it should.  At some point, however, 
the blocked packages interfered with other packages and their dependencies.  
By this time, an even newer version of ati-drivers had come out.  I commented 
out the line in package.mask and allowed ati-drivers to upgrade.  I didn't, 
at that time, restart X and everything continued to work fine.  This weekend, 
I needed to do some other maintenance on the box and had to reboot.  I lost 
my right monitor again.

After more fiddling and digging and Googling, I gave up and tried to downgrade 
ati-drivers again.  When I uncommented the line in package.mask, however, I 
couldn't emerge the package - it told me all versions were masked.  
Evidently, the old version I was using has been removed.

I gave up on ati-drivers, unmerged it and compiled the open source kernel 
radeon driver.  I tried to follow the directions here:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#With_the_Open_Source_Drivers

but they're broken or at least unclear.  After a great deal of futzing with my 
xorg.conf, I have my display largely back.  There are two issues remainging, 
however.  

First, xinerama doesn't appear to be working, or to be only partially working.  
It appears to not realize that there are two monitors.  Dialog boxes pop up 
in the middle of the virtual display, meaning half the box is on one screen 
and half on the other.  A maximized windows covers the full display - both 
screens.  I'll paste my xorg.conf in at the bottom of the message.  I set the 
xinerama use flag when I first went to dual monitors with the ati-drivers 
package several months ago.  The currently installed packages are compiled 
with it enabled.  Also, note that I don't particularly care if acceleration 
is working or not.  This is primarily a work machine.

The second issue is that several packages seem to think they depend on 
ati-drivers.  I don't believe this is a hard dependency, since I don't think 
that cdroast, for example, only works on machines with an ATI video card.  
I've checked and can't find any sort of useflag which might be triggering the 
issue.  But I'm getting this:

root@Merlin:/home/ddjones # emerge -uDvat world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.27.10" have 
been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.27.10-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
- x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
- x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.29.6 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for kde-base/kompare
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

I could unmask the ati-drivers from my package.mask but I don't want the 
driver installed (unless someone can offer a suggestion as to how to fix the 
sleepy monitor problem.)  I couldn't load the kernel radeon manager until I 
unmerged the ati-drivers package.

Any ideas or suggestions on either of these two probmes would be greatly 
appreciated.

Heres' my xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen         "Screen 0" 0 0
	Screen         "Screen 1" LeftOf "Screen 0"
	InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
	Option       "Xinerama" "On"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	FontPath     "unix/:7100"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/artwiz"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/default"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/dejavu"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/freefont"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/local"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/sharefonts"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/terminus"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ukr"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/util"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "bitmap"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "ddc"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "int10"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "type1"
	Load  "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "CoreKeyboard"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc104"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "CorePointer"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor 0"
	Modeline "1680x1050" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089
	Option	    "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor 1"
	Modeline "1680x1050" 119 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080
	Option	    "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Adapter 0"
	Driver      "radeon"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
	Option      "DynamicClocks" "On"
	Option      "MerdgedFB" "true"
	Option      "CRT2Position" "LeftOf"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Adapter 1"
	Driver      "radeon"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen 0"
	Device     "Adapter 0"
	Monitor    "Monitor 0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport  0 0
		Depth     24
		Virtual 3360 1050
		Modes     "1680x1050" 
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen 1"
	Device     "Adapter 1"
	Monitor    "Monitor 1"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport  0 0
		Virtual   3360 1050
		Depth     24
		Modes     "1680x1050" 
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode         0666
EndSection


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:55, Daniel D Jones wrote:

> 	Option      "MerdgedFB" "true"

Not sure, but could this have something to do with it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

[Daniel D Jones]

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 02:58, Mick wrote:
r> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:55, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> > 	Option      "MerdgedFB" "true"
>
> Not sure, but could this have something to do with it?

I believe it may have.  From what I've read, merged frame buffers are to allow 
the use of 3D acceleration across multiple monitors by making it appear as 
one large monitor, which is what appears to be happening.  When I right click 
the desktop and go to properties, it shows only a single monitor.  Before, it 
showed two.

As I said before, I don't really need 3D acceleration on this box.  
Additionally, I don't believe acceleration works on a display larger than 
2048 in either dimension and my virtual desktop is 3360 x 1050.  However, 
without the MergedFB setup, I get mirrored displays rather than a stretched 
display.  The Dual Monitor Howto, which I linked to in my first post, says to 
use the MergedFB option, and it also says to turn on xinerama.  If my 
understanding of MergedFB is correct and it's working as designed and 
presents a virtual single display, then xinerama isn't going to work because 
it can't distinguish between the two displays.  So I don't know if my 
understanding of how this is supposed to work is incorrect, if the HowTo is 
simply FUBARed or what.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

[David Relson]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:34:14 -0400
Daniel D Jones wrote:

> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 02:58, Mick wrote:
> r> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:55, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> > > 	Option      "MerdgedFB" "true"
> >
> > Not sure, but could this have something to do with it?
> 
> I believe it may have.  From what I've read, merged frame buffers are
> to allow the use of 3D acceleration across multiple monitors by
> making it appear as one large monitor, which is what appears to be
> happening.  When I right click the desktop and go to properties, it
> shows only a single monitor.  Before, it showed two.

Daniel,

The option appears to be spelled incorrectly.  Have you tried
"MergedFB", rather than "MerdgedFB" (only 1 "d")???

Regards,

David
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