From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N3IGY-0008Mq-LF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:49:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE560E0860; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F306E0860 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1291177ewy.34 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=ba9WOk/PJ70/Lhb5twIbjwPvpqOt53jqdFDU+1B4pAs=; b=CO5grBlIq0zWFpkuOBETjPU+5zi850/bySKjsgT2g1Puh8Tixfek5TxkT59TaWxxaT Jd0W6riinny+L/IeqAR9I0EiMk7S0XNuGxb54wGVyGKYXJEZaA4ww+YQ+jKBszpifg8N VqbaeuKhPMPfg7teBXdoESVvTnXXneyZOSgPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=FvIknSCVLor3OMTdIPX83G/VzXAjaC5ILHntegfQFC7QHqchTxVXw2oC9zR84YLZ3U p4+Spx05k8KaJUvEO6m4xHFLOPVUL5F66BXx2bjI9/8aSLqZ1+aGFkWyg9F9pbB7yEWn XRDUzf7i4iSJuroadFdgpZr+DCHbAAMPShkD4= Received: by 10.210.106.12 with SMTP id e12mr11178669ebc.11.1256773760066; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-40-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm4223116eyz.19.2009.10.28.16.49.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:49:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:48:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.31-zen4; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <49bf44f10910280936m47613bfx91827e3c3d4a30c6@mail.gmail.com> <200910282133.51141.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <49bf44f10910281422n721c811cqbe099bfc228ea7de@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10910281422n721c811cqbe099bfc228ea7de@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910290148.14971.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 12bfd17e-fd62-4876-bc04-553cbfd8b4ce X-Archives-Hash: 4b5ea7dfe6e20866471aeb15adf2655d On Wednesday 28 October 2009 23:22:44 Grant wrote: > > If the relay you use requires a username/password or ssl, it supports > > that too. > > So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an > email address? > > > [The receiving smtp server likely does not require a username/password, > > but it is equally likely to not accept connection direct from you, hence > > you should use your ISPs mail relay] > > I likely can't use my ISP's mail relay when traveling, right? The answer to both is "it depends" Mail admins configure their systems as they see fit. If the receiving server accepts your mail, all is fine. If not, you have to relay through a server they will accept mail from. While travelling, you will encounter three possibilities: 1. The relay is open. This is bad because it is useful for spam. Few knowledgeable admins do this. 2. (The usual case). Your ISP only accepts relay mail from their own IP address range. While travelling this is unlikely to work. 3. Your ISP implements authentication on the relay. So you can use it as a relay as long as you supply a username/password to prove you are a legit user. Another option is if the ISP gives you a vpn facility to log onto their network. This is generally expensive. A final option is to use gmail. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com