From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N3BtZ-0004Px-Q0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:01:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5103E08A5; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC1E08A5 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so929799ewy.34 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=r723s5Zz4O52ZwLVDDaF0G/lQaD1sv2jxw7Cggci28Y=; b=qtRqDXP3Vqz3etBfHSHwSaclejlLo4eI/JnccYUxRV15dQZdq0hf485V8euVfVI6Dy LuKi02bkWLyIgTIiKLTAJGT1x/HNIjSjmx3xv5caxHfJ0n4yu9yp20sqswqrntavf6SO ivcgvk6mu7ldE7pqoe+wW7F4lwFQ1vmebtHVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=kvYOZo8JjC/5QlSSSqVG9osXj6XogRzZGSfDa3WjuR4AoWvxvLmxJLiL/qo3M65qZC FCDex7M9jO+0rOPTx5Z03NsE2DNv0QP8+pvkUSrk/pqch+9iJQ+fr4HCAfx2G3kw55BT IFlLtkzWGdxJ3OYRMLCEWKGT/d/gMrUUFWrzE= Received: by 10.211.153.2 with SMTP id f2mr1087228ebo.42.1256749271890; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-40-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm3504403eyz.19.2009.10.28.10.01.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:59:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.31-zen4; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <87my3dohps.fsf@newsguy.com> <200910271041.17650.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <87skd3jwa6.fsf@newsguy.com> In-Reply-To: <87skd3jwa6.fsf@newsguy.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910281859.58996.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: e5d1472d-7390-44c1-94d4-bea56b9cd0eb X-Archives-Hash: b39a1fb5f51c43d59cd66a4e793f34f4 On Wednesday 28 October 2009 18:52:33 Harry Putnam wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > >> Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you? > > > > x86/10.0 gives you a baseline for that release > > x86/10.0/desktop|developer|server give you a profile more suited > > (tweaked) for that kind of usage. > > [...] > > Nice.. thanks > I see I already have most of use flags in the desktop, and already > have apache and mysql too.. so looks like I'm good to go but for > changing the symlink. A useful side-effect showed up with profiles in the last few days. Openoffice.org integration with KDE is broken - sometimes it doesn't build, sometimes it doesn't run and as the devs try out new patches it actually sometimes works :-) As a user, you want to be insulated from this nonsense of stuff breaking mysteriously. So appropriate masks go into profiles, where you simply cannot enable a certain USE flag for a specific package if it will not work. This particular case went into base/ so every profile benefited. But if it affected just say Intel, then the current x86 and amd64 profiles desktop could have been updated and you would benefit. Using an ultra-minimal (or not supported anymore) profile, you wouldn't. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com