* [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel
@ 2009-10-27 18:39 Grant
2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo mailing list
depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
x11-base/xorg-server
selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
selected: 2.7.1
protected: none
omitted: none
- Grant
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant @ 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs 2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user What's listed in /var/lib/portage/world? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: > depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a > bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there? > > x11-base/xorg-server > selected: 1.6.3.901-r2 > protected: none > omitted: none > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel > selected: 2.7.1 > protected: none > omitted: none > > - Grant > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs 2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant 2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: Text/Plain, Size: 611 bytes --] Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 19:39:01 schrieb Grant: > depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a > bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there? > > x11-base/xorg-server > selected: 1.6.3.901-r2 > protected: none > omitted: none > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel > selected: 2.7.1 > protected: none > omitted: none Looks like you don't have anything installed which needs them. If you really need xorg-server (means: if this is a desktop machine), you should add the package to your world file. HTH... Dirk [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 190 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant 2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a >> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there? >> >> x11-base/xorg-server >> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2 >> protected: none >> omitted: none >> >> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel >> selected: 2.7.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: none > > Looks like you don't have anything installed which needs them. If you really > need xorg-server (means: if this is a desktop machine), you should add the > package to your world file. > > HTH... > > Dirk Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? I have many of them in /var/lib/portage/world. For example, abiword, gnucash, and gnumeric. - Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:00 ` Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs 2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: Text/Plain, Size: 222 bytes --] Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 20:00:57 schrieb Grant: > Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on another machine. Bye... Dirk [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 190 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:09 ` Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant 2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? > > Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on > another machine. > > Bye... > > Dirk Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. - Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:17 ` Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on >> another machine. >> >> Bye... >> >> Dirk > > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. > > - Grant Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What does it provide? - Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant @ 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant 2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-27 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tuesday 27 October 2009 21:20:17 Grant wrote: > >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? > >> > >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be > >> running on another machine. > >> > >> Bye... > >> > >> Dirk > > > > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. > > > > - Grant > > Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What > does it provide? xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in everything required to provide a full X server -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Crístian Viana @ 2009-10-27 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1218 bytes --] according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more lightweight xorg-server. Functionally, xorg-x11 and xorg-server are the same. However, xorg-x11brings in many more packages that you probably don't need, such as a huge assortment of fonts in many different languages. They're not necessary for a working desktop. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 21:20:17 Grant wrote: > > >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? > > >> > > >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be > > >> running on another machine. > > >> > > >> Bye... > > >> > > >> Dirk > > > > > > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. > > > > > > - Grant > > > > Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What > > does it provide? > > xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in > everything required to provide a full X server > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1831 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-27 19:53 ` Crístian Viana @ 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant 2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman 2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >> >> >> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be >> >> running on another machine. >> >> >> >> Bye... >> >> >> >> Dirk >> > >> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. >> > >> > - Grant >> >> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What >> does it provide? > > xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in > everything required to provide a full X server > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to emerge for xorg-x11: [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 185 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 150 kB [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts? - Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant @ 2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman 2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Paul Hartman @ 2009-10-27 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >>> >> >>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be >>> >> running on another machine. >>> >> >>> >> Bye... >>> >> >>> >> Dirk >>> > >>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. >>> > >>> > - Grant >>> >>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What >>> does it provide? >> >> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in >> everything required to provide a full X server >> >> -- >> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to > emerge for xorg-x11: > > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0 > USE="X -nls" 185 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0 > USE="X -nls" 150 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB > > Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does > anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts? I think if you don't use any of those other programs then you don't need them, and if you install anything that needs them it'll pull them in automatically. :) They're mostly low-level utilities. If your system is working as-is then I don't think you'll be missing out on anything by leaving it alone (after putting xorg-server into your world file of course). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 20:25 ` Grant 2009-10-27 20:48 ` Paul Hartman @ 2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht 2009-10-27 22:05 ` Grant 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >>> >> >>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be >>> >> running on another machine. >>> >> >>> >> Bye... >>> >> >>> >> Dirk >>> > >>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. >>> > >>> > - Grant >>> >>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What >>> does it provide? >> >> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in >> everything required to provide a full X server >> >> -- >> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to > emerge for xorg-x11: > > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0 > USE="X -nls" 185 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB > [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0 > USE="X -nls" 150 kB > [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB > > Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does > anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts? > > - Grant > > Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly, play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much trouble in terms of updates as they don't change. Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and hardly notice the difference. - Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 21:45 ` Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 22:05 ` Grant 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Grant @ 2009-10-27 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >>>> >> >>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be >>>> >> running on another machine. >>>> >> >>>> >> Bye... >>>> >> >>>> >> Dirk >>>> > >>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. >>>> > >>>> > - Grant >>>> >>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What >>>> does it provide? >>> >>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in >>> everything required to provide a full X server >>> >>> -- >>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com >> >> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to >> emerge for xorg-x11: >> >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0 >> USE="X -nls" 185 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB >> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0 >> USE="X -nls" 150 kB >> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB >> >> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does >> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts? >> >> - Grant >> >> > > Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one > app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly, > play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I > don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much > trouble in terms of updates as they don't change. > > Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and > hardly notice the difference. > > - Mark Sounds good, thanks everyone. - Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 19:20 ` Grant 2009-10-27 19:26 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-27 20:20 ` Mark Knecht 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-10-27 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? >>> >>> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on >>> another machine. >>> >>> Bye... >>> >>> Dirk >> >> Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world. >> >> - Grant > > Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What > does it provide? > > - Grant > > Depends. I use xorg-server on most of mine but if you want/need a mire full X setup, more fonts, etc., then use xorg-x11. You can always start with xorg-server and switch over later as the server is a subset of the latter. HTH, Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel 2009-10-27 18:39 [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel Grant 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Mark Knecht 2009-10-27 18:53 ` Dirk Heinrichs @ 2009-10-27 18:54 ` Crístian Viana 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Crístian Viana @ 2009-10-27 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 544 bytes --] do you have xorg-server on /var/lib/portage/world? On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote: > depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a > bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there? > > x11-base/xorg-server > selected: 1.6.3.901-r2 > protected: none > omitted: none > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel > selected: 2.7.1 > protected: none > omitted: none > > - Grant > > -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 879 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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