[gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Momesso Andrea]

I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.

I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all sent messages. 
Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but I have the 
need to do this server side.

Is it possible?

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Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Andrea Momesso]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Momesso Andrea
<momesso.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.
>
> I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all sent messages.
> Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but I have the
> need to do this server side.
>
> Is it possible?
>
> ---

Sorry for the bump, it's not my usual behavior, but I really need an answer.

Maybe I've not made myself clear on what I'm asking for. I run an SMTP
server that is used by some
apps, such as joomla, to send email to users. Since I'm doing some
tests before putting the site online,
I'd like to have a copy of all the emails sent by my smtp server, no
matter who sends it (is it a local user, or
joomla, or a remote user from his client).

Is it possible? Do I have to provide more information about the setup
of my server?


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Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 11:42:15AM +0200, Penguin Lover Andrea Momesso squawked:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Momesso Andrea
> <momesso.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.
> >
> > I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all sent messages.
> > Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but I have the
> > need to do this server side.
> >
> > Is it possible?

> Sorry for the bump, it's not my usual behavior, but I really need an answer.

Netqmail is presumeably similar to qmail. If so, it is possible, but
not trivial. 

Google says:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OMHy4wRQOP4C&lpg=PA210&ots=6fEPr0qxY6&dq=qmail%20save%20mail&pg=PA210#v=onepage&q=qmail%20save%20mail&f=false

Which tells you to use the QUEUE_EXTRA feature. Though it seems that
you will need to patch qmail yourself and re-install. 

HTH, 

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Stroller]

On 7 Oct 2009, at 10:42, Andrea Momesso wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Momesso Andrea
> <momesso.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.
>>
>> I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all  
>> sent messages.
>> Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but  
>> I have the
>> need to do this server side.
>>
>> Is it possible?
>>
>> ---
>
> Sorry for the bump, it's not my usual behavior, but I really need an  
> answer.
>
> Maybe I've not made myself clear on what I'm asking for. I run an SMTP
> server that is used by some
> apps, such as joomla, to send email to users. Since I'm doing some
> tests before putting the site online,
> I'd like to have a copy of all the emails sent by my smtp server, no
> matter who sends it (is it a local user, or
> joomla, or a remote user from his client).
>
> Is it possible? Do I have to provide more information about the setup
> of my server?

When I read your message the other day I read  the howto you followed  
and googled your problem.

netqmail is the package that you're using for outgoing SMTP, so it's  
irrelevant that you're using vpopmail.

I tried search terms such as "netqmail save copy outgoing" but did not  
find much to help. I have seen this documented using Postfix, but have  
never used netqmail myself.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Momesso Andrea]

On Wednesday 07 October 2009 18:21:21 Stroller wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2009, at 10:42, Andrea Momesso wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Momesso Andrea
> >
> > <momesso.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.
> >>
> >> I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all
> >> sent messages.
> >> Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but
> >> I have the
> >> need to do this server side.
> >>
> >> Is it possible?
> >>
> >> ---
> >
> > Sorry for the bump, it's not my usual behavior, but I really need an
> > answer.
> >
> > Maybe I've not made myself clear on what I'm asking for. I run an SMTP
> > server that is used by some
> > apps, such as joomla, to send email to users. Since I'm doing some
> > tests before putting the site online,
> > I'd like to have a copy of all the emails sent by my smtp server, no
> > matter who sends it (is it a local user, or
> > joomla, or a remote user from his client).
> >
> > Is it possible? Do I have to provide more information about the setup
> > of my server?
> 
> When I read your message the other day I read  the howto you followed
> and googled your problem.
> 
> netqmail is the package that you're using for outgoing SMTP, so it's
> irrelevant that you're using vpopmail.
> 
> I tried search terms such as "netqmail save copy outgoing" but did not
> find much to help. I have seen this documented using Postfix, but have
> never used netqmail myself.
> 
> Stroller.
> 

Thank you for the answer, very appreciated.

So using postfix might solve my problem... Since this need is temporary, after 
the test phase I will no longer need to track outgoing messages, I'd like to 
know if there is a way to make 2 smtp servers coexist (qmail and postfix), 
maybe on different ports.

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Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and saving a copy of outgoing mail

[Joshua Murphy]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Momesso Andrea
<momesso.andrea@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have mail server running netqmail and vpopmail set up following
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml.
>
> I can't find a way to make the server taking care of storing all sent messages.
> Googoling around I found that this is usually done client side, but I have the
> need to do this server side.
>
> Is it possible?
>
> ---
> TopperH
> http://topperh.blogspot.com

Only thing I've found, looking for it (never used qmail myself)...

source:  http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#copies

How do I keep a copy of all incoming and outgoing mail messages?
Answer: Set QUEUE_EXTRA to "Tlog\0" and QUEUE_EXTRALEN to 5 in
extra.h. Recompile qmail. Put ./msg-log into ~alias/.qmail-log.

You can also use QUEUE_EXTRA to, e.g., record the Message-ID of every
message: run

     | awk '/^$/ { exit } /^[mM][eE][sS][sS][aA][gG][eE]-/ { print }'
from ~alias/.qmail-log.

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