From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqzjC-0004qo-1r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:36:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53399E091E; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165C1E091E for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so39039fga.10 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:36:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=2o4FleUAbKrU6jGMKIsokh099pz93UO7TPc8MyGdoAU=; b=hObev4BG8P7tHDeZ/VowougqLcb6XmLMqvJQlfh3w5prYGpZ0AIO8Nbd3VGmDyODdt wq03nFwJpcL6A2mKz3Fdcl6h010fo4DSdn653R2EcOPSvwmXkeXL53P4aR9DrfX8xYKV CJU+P/Kh7UZGNQBo1jcDdhs5wHTOVRWD5kxvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=coQaR2muCL+2CUFgao3S8TvrfxdF0JpV1Lmaiyry4QVf6hEqKD+WF2ujEUKl819OFj fQuh5qNmiAfPvbigCGpWmWagNIxksVHYa2KsH2YLNQtK9L7BzbuvEZVHkxUOp6ZnHp75 mSVYlQWho7EJiO2oGlChsb333CYFP9Z48s90c= Received: by 10.86.228.16 with SMTP id a16mr552860fgh.49.1253842563471; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.197.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm393955fge.8.2009.09.24.18.36.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG. Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:35:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.31r4; KDE/4.3.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <4ABAE27E.8070400@gmail.com> <58965d8a0909241809r50fde333l6cbe81ab2a30b639@mail.gmail.com> <4ABC1B2C.6080703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ABC1B2C.6080703@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200909250335.59291.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 059644d8-1e1e-45be-a310-43efd204c599 X-Archives-Hash: c3c9b7b8171ab315a6c7c5ccbafb4daa On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale wrote: > >> One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you > >> plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. > >> Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even > >> better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from > >> when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the > >> book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least > >> 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get > >> to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do > >> NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few > >> minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a > >> couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving > >> it is really good. > >> > >> I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got > >> a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can > >> survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a > >> while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your > >> beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I > >> have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a > >> Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate > >> each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble > >> with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of > >> mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) > >> > >> Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA > >> drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL > > > > When you look at hard drive reviews, they tend to be either 5 stars > > ("Perfect! Never a problem after 10 years!") or 0 stars ("Horrible, > > died after 2 minutes! I got 2 more and they did the same thing!" etc). > > I don't think there are a lot of ways for a hard drive to go bad > > without it being catastrophic. Maybe bad sectors... but I consider > > that catastrophic because they always seem to spread like cancer. If > > there is one bad sector on a drive, I simply can't trust it. > > > > That being said, I've had lots of hard drives from many brands and the > > best combinations of price/speed/reliability I've had is Samsung. I'm > > using 6 of them right now and after 2+ years of 24/7 usage none has > > died yet. I'm sure someone here will have a horror story about a > > Samsung drive to add to this thread. :) > > I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it > was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and > -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to > get how many hours a drive has been running? I know I saw this before > but no clue where it was. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > smartctl -a