[gentoo-user] hald failed to start

[gentoo-user] hald failed to start

[felix]

Bummer.  I upgraded X and followed all the steps, it did come up, but
hald won't start, so I have to ssh in and kill X to get my screen back
even as a tty.  Seems a shame to go thru all that X upgrade stuff and
have something else fail.  Here are the versions:

  sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
  x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2

This is the only error message in /var/log/messages:

  Sep 19 02:32:36 crowfix /etc/init.d/hald[4485]: ERROR: hald failed to start

Nothing I can see in dmesg.  The X log is pretty unhelpful:

  (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)

This is a ~amd64 system.  It fails the same on both 2.6.30-r6 and
2.6.31.

I guess what I would really like is some way to get more info on why
hald won't start.  I ran it manually with --verbose=yes --use-syslog
and got 8699 lines of syslog, only 9 of which had "error" in them.  7
of those were for lid, battery, etc -- laptop stuff.  Only 2 looked
like real errors:

  Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix hald[5888]: 02:46:45.936 [E] hald_runner.c:671: Error running 'hald-addon-storage': org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received
  Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix hald[5888]: 02:46:45.944 [E] hald_runner.c:671: Error running 'hald-addon-hid-ups': org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected: Connection is closed

Does this mean anything to somebody?  Is there a better way to get
more useful info from hald?  Did I forget to read some update notice?

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[gentoo-user] Re: hald failed to start

[Jonathan Callen (ABCD)]

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felix@crowfix.com wrote:
> Bummer.  I upgraded X and followed all the steps, it did come up, but
> hald won't start, so I have to ssh in and kill X to get my screen back
> even as a tty.  Seems a shame to go thru all that X upgrade stuff and
> have something else fail.  Here are the versions:
> 
>   sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
>   x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2
> 
> This is the only error message in /var/log/messages:
> 
>   Sep 19 02:32:36 crowfix /etc/init.d/hald[4485]: ERROR: hald failed to start
> 
> Nothing I can see in dmesg.  The X log is pretty unhelpful:
> 
>   (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)
> 
> This is a ~amd64 system.  It fails the same on both 2.6.30-r6 and
> 2.6.31.
> 
> I guess what I would really like is some way to get more info on why
> hald won't start.  I ran it manually with --verbose=yes --use-syslog
> and got 8699 lines of syslog, only 9 of which had "error" in them.  7
> of those were for lid, battery, etc -- laptop stuff.  Only 2 looked
> like real errors:
> 
>   Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix hald[5888]: 02:46:45.936 [E] hald_runner.c:671: Error running 'hald-addon-storage': org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received
>   Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix hald[5888]: 02:46:45.944 [E] hald_runner.c:671: Error running 'hald-addon-hid-ups': org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected: Connection is closed
> 
> Does this mean anything to somebody?  Is there a better way to get
> more useful info from hald?  Did I forget to read some update notice?
> 

While I don't have quite enough information to be sure, it looks like a
problem with dbus. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to determine if this
is the case, or what should be done if that *is* the case.

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[gentoo-user] Re: hald failed to start

[walt]

On 09/19/2009 03:03 AM, felix@crowfix.com wrote:
> Bummer.  I upgraded X and followed all the steps, it did come up, but
> hald won't start, so I have to ssh in and kill X to get my screen back
> even as a tty.  Seems a shame to go thru all that X upgrade stuff and
> have something else fail.  Here are the versions:
>
>    sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
>    x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2
>
> This is the only error message in /var/log/messages:
>
>    Sep 19 02:32:36 crowfix /etc/init.d/hald[4485]: ERROR: hald failed to start

The hald initscript says it needs dbus.  Is dbus running?  Is dbus in
your 'default' runlevel?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hald failed to start

[felix]

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 02:36:40PM -0700, walt wrote:
> On 09/19/2009 03:03 AM, felix@crowfix.com wrote:
> > Bummer.  I upgraded X and followed all the steps, it did come up, but
> > hald won't start, so I have to ssh in and kill X to get my screen back
> > even as a tty.  Seems a shame to go thru all that X upgrade stuff and
> > have something else fail.  Here are the versions:
> >
> >    sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
> >    x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2
> >
> > This is the only error message in /var/log/messages:
> >
> >    Sep 19 02:32:36 crowfix /etc/init.d/hald[4485]: ERROR: hald failed to start
> 
> The hald initscript says it needs dbus.  Is dbus running?  Is dbus in
> your 'default' runlevel?

Hmmm ... yes, hald and dbus are in the default runlevel.  dbus is
running and periodically reloads its configuration.  There are quite a
few of these messages:

    Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix process: 5918: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect, assertion "(dest) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((dest))" failed in file dbus-errors.c line 278.
    Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix This: is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
    Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix D-Bus: not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
    Sep 19 02:46:45 crowfix libhal.c: 4494 : Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

I will have to look into this, and I have never liked lynx ... time to
fire up an old mac laptop, I think....  at least I have more sleep now
than I had at o-dark-thirty when I got back from a trip ...

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[gentoo-user] Re: hald failed to start

[walt]

On 09/19/2009 04:20 PM, felix@crowfix.com wrote:
> ....  at least I have more sleep now
> than I had at o-dark-thirty when I got back from a trip ...

Ah, that explains everything.  Never fire up your machine when
you've just come home from a trip!  (I think Nostradamus said
that -- but I could be wrong.)