Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 query

[Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>]

090917 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Mittwoch 16 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
> > Faced with the KDE 4 steamroller rumbling & shuddering ever closer,
> > I've been trying out the 4.3.1 versions of apps I frequently use.
> > I have not installed the desktop management part of KDE,
> > only the apps themselves & whatever deps they require:
> > Fluxbox is my desktop manager of choice.
> fluxbox is not a manager. It is merely a window manager.

It manages my desktop much better than KDE 4.2.1 did ...

> KDE can use all ICCCM adhering WM.

How can "KDE use WM" ? -- your words make no sense in English.

>> Konsole 4.3.1 -- very much dumbed down from 3.5.10 ;
>>   big problem: it seems impossible to predetermine window size;
>>   result: back to 3.5.10 & be prepared to use Xterm & Xfce's Terminal.
> strange, every konsole window I open has the same size.

Exactly: I want different sizes for different uses.
Xterm does it, Terminal does it, Konsole 3.5.10 did it via command flags,
but these have disappeared in Konsole 4.3.1 (try 'konsole --help').

> Also, do you have tried the geometry setting? right click on title,
> window specific settings, create profil, put size into profile done.

When I right-click on the titlebar, I get a Fluxbox list of options,
none of which is "window-specific" nor relates to profil(e)s.
Of course, I've tried editing profiles, but it has no effect on size;
I also checked Google for 'resizing konsole' & similar.

>> Okular 4.3.1 -- usable, but no noticeable improvement on Kpdf 3.5.10 .
> that is a joke, right?

No, it's very serious: KDE 4 is jazzed up visually & dumbed down in options.
Okular is as described when compared with Kpdf 3 .

>> Konqueror 4.3.1 -- no way to import bookmarks,
>>   but they are easily copied from  ~/.kde3.5 , as are style sheets;
> wrong.  bookmark editor: 'File' 'import', 'import kde 3 bookmarks'.

What is "bookmark editor" ? -- it's not a dependency of Konqueror 4 .

My problem -- unlike other people's -- with your responses 
is that you are typically inaccurate both in content & in English.
You are usually amusing, but I suspect that is not your intention.

I am genuinely disappointed by KDE 4.3.1 , which I had hoped
would be a real step forward given recent KDE PR announcements.
Roughly  50 %  options in KDE 3 have not been retained in KDE 4
& by now it's not simply that they haven't got around to implementing them:
it's clear they don't intend to & are merely concentrating on eye-candy.
It's utter madness, but with free software there are alternatives,
which I have started to adopt (Fluxbox, Thunar, Terminal).

Does anyone have useful comments, even "you can't do that any more" ?

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