From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MeF9y-0000SD-K6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64D3DE05BF; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F2EE05BF for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so245054ewy.14 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=fY0gton79d6d2ggvIo2WUaVEwKbyl/yAulqW8mpUIno=; b=haNei8naP4IB2BeiUIaKW8s2HVw+/eF63th8hDRofqp6kNJ89xls804Ez3JqXqINBD t8z1+SgmolrNIY68UfD8qzPGbf2himi1+Ipw4PDHS1+NU/KRuhOCsXVehZPhn3+jzW/R Y5defNFRQd4/t+s2OBGLU3aSQn67/pq94foEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=iZjlk9tgG5ST9XWqUZzvBY+rSfZD+TDGIy0lr7YeE8Rv0DnP4GetzkB3lBsqoiMP3f 4wKNLJfZ2d6qJeMzvccaFzzMPNYoJUIgO9F8/1nu1LwLM40uFgL/2KF/Ehscwx88vRek ewUmvsY+LMrFq5+n91BC6b/NYmJkfA6N1QGuM= Received: by 10.210.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr578497ebb.91.1250803620461; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet ([196.210.202.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm851384eyb.40.2009.08.20.14.26.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:25:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r4; KDE/4.3.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <200908200134.47229.Warp_7@gmx.de> <58965d8a0908201203m555a7f31ve9a89a60be623088@mail.gmail.com> <200908202119.05269.Warp_7@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <200908202119.05269.Warp_7@gmx.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908202325.35887.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: fc5340b2-e4a3-40da-80ae-936651efabe8 X-Archives-Hash: 18d1cea03e858cac15f28efa260ba9e7 On Thursday 20 August 2009 21:19:02 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Paul Hartman: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > until now I've been quite a KDE4 hater, but I'm willing to give it a > > > try from time to time. So I installed 4.3 parallel to my beloved 3.5.10 > > > and was quite pleased with it. However, I have repeating crashes of my > > > entire X. Mostly it happens when I open Konsole, the next often > > > occasion is opening a menu (main menu, context menu, you name it), but > > > also only after a Konsole windows was opened. All I see is a quick > > > error message about glibc, then X restarts and I'm back at kdm. > > > > I had Konsole-related crashes and other weirdness when I first > > switched to KDE4. It turned out to be related to fonts! I installed > > DejaVu fonts and used them for everything in KDE's font config, and in > > Konsole I'm using "Fixed [ETL]" size 10 (I'm not sure which package > > that came from, but I think it's one of the core Xorg fonts). > > I, too, changed the font to a bitmap variant (terminus). But that didn't > help; though crashes occured less, if my memory serves me correctly, they > were still there. I get occasional crashes with various odd KDE4 apps, like: Moving two bookmark folders around in Edit BookMarks is certain to crash. kmail crashes while doing deleting several mails on IMAP folders in quick succession. Kopete crashed regularly today while shuffling contacts around. I agree that emerge -e world is sure to sort it out but we won't find out the actual cure. We have three guys at least with this problem, so I suggest a trick: List the likely problematic packages (kdelibs, Qt, glibc, font stuff). Split the list up. When one of us hits a fix, the others can test it. With luck... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com