[gentoo-user] Xorg dropping keyboard events

[gentoo-user] Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Moshe Kamensky]

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There was a thread with this subject a few months ago, which I have 
deleted. The observable situation is that a key is ignored or (more 
annoyingly) repeated indefinitely. This happens in X but not on the 
console. I was wondering if this was resolved.

Thanks,
Moshe


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Stroller]

On 14 Aug 2009, at 21:26, Moshe Kamensky wrote:

> There was a thread with this subject a few months ago, which I have
> deleted....

LMGTHFY:
http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=Xorg%20dropping%20keyboard%20events

Stroller.

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[Moshe Kamensky]

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* Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> [14/08/09 22:21]:
> 
> On 14 Aug 2009, at 21:26, Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> 
> > There was a thread with this subject a few months ago, which I have
> > deleted....
> 
> LMGTHFY:
> http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=Xorg%20dropping%20keyboard%20events
> 

Well, yes, that's where I found it, but there doesn't seem to be any 
solution there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> * Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> [14/08/09 22:21]:
>   
>> On 14 Aug 2009, at 21:26, Moshe Kamensky wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> There was a thread with this subject a few months ago, which I have
>>> deleted....
>>>       
>> LMGTHFY:
>> http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=Xorg%20dropping%20keyboard%20events
>>
>>     
>
> Well, yes, that's where I found it, but there doesn't seem to be any 
> solution there.
>
>   

Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled?  That is assuming
you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[Moshe Kamensky]

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* Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> [15/08/09 09:30]:
> 
> Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled?  That is assuming
> you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version.
> 

I'll try that, thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Keith Dart]

=== On Sat, 08/15, Dale wrote: ===
> Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled?  That is
> assuming you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version.

===

FYI, I am using the latest X server with hal enabled and the evdev
input driver and it all works fine.

-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

Keith Dart wrote:
> === On Sat, 08/15, Dale wrote: ===
>   
>> Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled?  That is
>> assuming you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version.
>>     
>
> ===
>
> FYI, I am using the latest X server with hal enabled and the evdev
> input driver and it all works fine.
>
> -- Keith Dart
>
>   

Well, I had to disable hal on mine and so have a few others because hal
doesn't work for us.  I for example ended up with a GUI but no mouse or
keyboard.  So, just because something works for you does not mean it
works for everybody else.  Re-emerging xorg-server with hal disabled
works just fine so I and a few others are not using hal.

I don't know if this will help the OP or not but it is worth a try.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Keith Dart]

=== On Sun, 08/16, Dale wrote: ===
> Well, I had to disable hal on mine and so have a few others because
> hal doesn't work for us.  I for example ended up with a GUI but no
> mouse or keyboard.  So, just because something works for you does not
> mean it works for everybody else.  Re-emerging xorg-server with hal
> disabled works just fine so I and a few others are not using hal.

Yes, but my point is that, likewise, just because something doesn't
work for you does not mean it won't work for everybody else. ;-)


> I don't know if this will help the OP or not but it is worth a try.

Try it, but it is probably something else. 



-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Keith Dart]

=== On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: ===
> Try it, but it is probably something else. 
> 

===

BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input
configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file.
With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your
config can confuse things. 

It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller
all the time. :-) 

-- Keith Dart

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[Moshe Kamensky]

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* Keith Dart <keith@dartworks.biz> [16/08/09 19:00]:
> === On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: ===
> > Try it, but it is probably something else. 
> > 
> 
> ===
> 
> BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input
> configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file.
> With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your
> config can confuse things. 
> 
> It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller
> all the time. :-) 

Thanks, but I tried that and it didn't help. On the other hand, I this 
time when I started X the problem is gone, so it seems that the problem 
is a bit random.

Thanks,
Moshe


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Keith Dart]

=== On Sun, 08/16, Moshe Kamensky wrote: ===
> Thanks, but I tried that and it didn't help. On the other hand, I
> this time when I started X the problem is gone, so it seems that the
> problem is a bit random.
===

Gotta hate those gremlins with dice. ;-)

If it happens again I have some tools that can determine if the problem
is in the X server, or the Linux kernel input/event subsystem. 

-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

Keith Dart wrote:
> === On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: ===
>   
>> Try it, but it is probably something else. 
>>
>>     
>
> ===
>
> BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input
> configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file.
> With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your
> config can confuse things. 
>
> It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller
> all the time. :-) 
>
> -- Keith Dart
>
>   

I just renamed xorg.conf to something else and tried it that way.  It
didn't like that either.  I followed the guide on Gentoo.org and even
tried a couple things people mentioned on this list but it still doesn't
work.  As soon as X comes up, no mouse, no keyboard. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[ABCD]

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Dale wrote:
> I just renamed xorg.conf to something else and tried it that way.  It
> didn't like that either.  I followed the guide on Gentoo.org and even
> tried a couple things people mentioned on this list but it still doesn't
> work.  As soon as X comes up, no mouse, no keyboard. 
> 

Is CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV set to "y" or "m" in your kernel config? If not,
then xf86-input-evdev will not work, as you won't have the
/dev/input/event{0,1,...} devices it needs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Crístian Viana]

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once I had a problem like this, and I solved it by adding the following
section to xorg.conf:

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "AllowEmptyInput"    "false"
EndSection

it happened earlier this year when I upgraded x11-base/xorg-x11.

-- 
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

ABCD wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> > I just renamed xorg.conf to something else and tried it that way.  It
> > didn't like that either.  I followed the guide on Gentoo.org and even
> > tried a couple things people mentioned on this list but it still doesn't
> > work.  As soon as X comes up, no mouse, no keyboard.
>
>
> Is CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV set to "y" or "m" in your kernel config? If not,
> then xf86-input-evdev will not work, as you won't have the
> /dev/input/event{0,1,...} devices it needs.
>

Mine is set to build in the kernel.

root@smoker / # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
root@smoker / #


So, another possible cause dealt with.  Still watching for others tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

Crístian Viana wrote:
> once I had a problem like this, and I solved it by adding the
> following section to xorg.conf:
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>    Option "AllowEmptyInput"    "false"
> EndSection
>
> it happened earlier this year when I upgraded x11-base/xorg-x11.
>
> -- 
> Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
> Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil 

Yea, that does the same as disabling hal tho.  Just faster than
recompiling xorg-server with -hal.

I forgot about doing it that way.  I'm getting to old.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Keith Dart]

=== On Mon, 08/17, Dale wrote: ===
> So, another possible cause dealt with.  Still watching for others
> tho. 

===

Any clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?

-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events

[Dale]

Keith Dart wrote:
> === On Mon, 08/17, Dale wrote: ===
>   
>> So, another possible cause dealt with.  Still watching for others
>> tho. 
>>     
>
> ===
>
> Any clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
>
> -- Keith Dart
>
>   

It has been a while since I tried it but I don't recall anything in
there.  I need to try this again tho since I know how to use the SysRq
keys now.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[Moshe Kamensky]

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* Crístian Viana <cristiandeives@gmail.com> [17/08/09 00:24]:
> once I had a problem like this, and I solved it by adding the following
> section to xorg.conf:
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
>    Option "AllowEmptyInput"    "false"
> EndSection
> 
> it happened earlier this year when I upgraded x11-base/xorg-x11.


Thanks, I tried that, but it didn't help...

> 
> -- 
> Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
> Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil

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