[gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

[gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

[Stroller]

Hi there,

I use a Mac running OS X as my main desktop, but I really like knode  
on the rare occasions I use Usenet. So I have installed knode on a  
headless server and can ssh -X into it and knode works fine.

Unfortunately, the fonts are pretty large - I would prefer to  
configure these on a KDE-wide basis, as the "Location, Edit, View, &c"  
is equally large in Konqueror, which opens if I click a link in a  
usenet posting in knode.

I have tried running `kcontrol`, but it opens without any icons or  
tree on the left hand side - I see a blue "welcome" page, but there is  
nothing I can actually configure.

If I try `kcmshell`:

$ kcmshell fonts
kbuildsycoca running...
kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'fonts'.
$ kcmshell -list
The following modules are available:
$

Version of knode:

$ eix knode
[I] kde-base/knode
      Available versions:
	(3.5)	3.5.9 3.5.10
	(4.2)	~4.2.4
	(4.3)	[M]~4.3.0!t
	{aqua arts debug elibc_FreeBSD handbook kdeenablefinal kdeprefix  
kontact xinerama}
      Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(13:07:37 25/06/09)(-debug - 
elibc_FreeBSD)
      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
      Description:         A newsreader for KDE




It appears that `kcmshell` is provided by kde-base/kdelibs, but I  
don't know what the "!t" in the below means:

$ equery b `which kcmshell`
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kcmshell in *... ]
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kcmshell)
$ eix kdelibs
[I] kde-base/kdelibs
      Available versions:
	(3.5)	~3.5.9!t ~3.5.9-r1!t ~3.5.9-r2!t ~3.5.9-r3!t 3.5.9-r4!t ~3.5.10- 
r1!t ~3.5.10-r2!t ~3.5.10-r3!t ~3.5.10-r4!t ~3.5.10-r5!t 3.5.10-r6!t
	(4.2)	~4.2.4-r4!t
	(4.3)	[M]~4.3.0!t
	{3dnow acl alsa altivec aqua arts avahi bindist branding bzip2 cups  
debug doc elibc_FreeBSD fam handbook jpeg2k kdeenablefinal  
kdehiddenvisibility kdeprefix kerberos kernel_linux legacyssl lua mmx  
nls openexr opengl semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl test tiff  
utempter xinerama zeroconf}
      Installed versions:  3.5.10-r6(3.5)!t(03:36:47 09/08/09)(acl  
cups doc kernel_linux spell -alsa -arts -avahi -bindist -branding - 
debug -elibc_FreeBSD -fam -jpeg2k -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos - 
legacyssl -lua -openexr -tiff -utempter)
      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
      Description:         KDE libraries needed by all KDE programs.

$

Nevertheless, it appears some other package is need to provide the  
modules for KDE Control Centre. Anyone know what that is, please?

I'm running "x86", not "~x86".

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 09 August 2009 05:40:07 Stroller wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I use a Mac running OS X as my main desktop, but I really like knode
> on the rare occasions I use Usenet. So I have installed knode on a
> headless server and can ssh -X into it and knode works fine.
>
> Unfortunately, the fonts are pretty large - I would prefer to
> configure these on a KDE-wide basis, as the "Location, Edit, View, &c"
> is equally large in Konqueror, which opens if I click a link in a
> usenet posting in knode.

Did you just install knode, or more than that? knode gives you knode, not the 
other 50 packages that make up a basic KDE session :-)

I suspect you might not have the control centre and it's modules at all, so 
you don;t have the background settings daemon thingy that controls the look 
and feel of all of kde.

Edit ~/.kderc to set defaults you like

Or you could install the kdebase-meta to get everything for a basic session. A 
bit of a waste just for knode...

> Version of knode:
>
> $ eix knode
> [I] kde-base/knode
>       Available versions:
> 	(3.5)	3.5.9 3.5.10
> 	(4.2)	~4.2.4
> 	(4.3)	[M]~4.3.0!t
> 	{aqua arts debug elibc_FreeBSD handbook kdeenablefinal kdeprefix
> kontact xinerama}
>       Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(13:07:37 25/06/09)(-debug -
> elibc_FreeBSD)
>       Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>       Description:         A newsreader for KDE
>
>
>
>
> It appears that `kcmshell` is provided by kde-base/kdelibs, but I
> don't know what the "!t" in the below means:

The eix man page is written in Martian. You don't understand it, I don;t 
understand it and the developer has no clue what he is doing - if he did, this 
question would not arise. He is making the fatal flaw of "exposing the 
implementation in the interface or documentation" But having said that, "!t" 
means that knode is subject to

RESTRICT="test"

This fact is hidden deep in the man page, in section "OUTPUT", subsection 
"Slots", 4th example. Line 647 of 709 on my box (terminal 100 chars wide)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Control Centre - what package provides fonts module?

[Stroller]

On 9 Aug 2009, at 10:40, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> ...
> Did you just install knode, or more than that? knode gives you  
> knode, not the
> other 50 packages that make up a basic KDE session :-)

I just emerge'd knode & added xauth when X11 over ssh gave an error.

> I suspect you might not have the control centre and it's modules at  
> all, so
> you don't have the background settings daemon thingy that controls  
> the look
> and feel of all of kde.

I have the KDE Control Centre - that's what opens when I run  
`kcontrol`. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, but that *does* open -  
it's just blank down the left-hand side.

Apparently I installed kde-base/kcontrol (and Konqueror) manually to  
try & fix this, but apparently it didn't install the modules.

$ eix -I -C kde* -c
[I] kde-base/certmanager (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@09/08/09): KDE certificate  
manager gui.
[I] kde-base/kcminit (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KCMInit - runs startups  
initialization for Control Modules.
[I] kde-base/kcontrol (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The KDE Control Center
[I] kde-base/kdebase-data (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): Icons, localization  
data and various .desktop files from kdebase.
[I] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@25/06/09): kioslave:  
the kde VFS framework - kioslave plugins present a filesystem-like  
view of arbitrary data
[I] kde-base/kdelibs (3.5.10-r6(3.5)@09/08/09): KDE libraries needed  
by all KDE programs.
[I] kde-base/kdesu (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: gui for su(1)
[I] kde-base/kdialog (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDialog can be used to  
show nice dialog boxes from shell scripts
[I] kde-base/kfind (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE file finder utility
[I] kde-base/khelpcenter (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The KDE Help Center
[I] kde-base/khotkeys (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: hotkey daemon
[I] kde-base/kicker (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@25/06/09): Kicker is the KDE  
application starter panel, also capable of some useful applets and  
extensions.
[I] kde-base/kmenuedit (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE menu editor
[I] kde-base/knode (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): A newsreader for KDE
[I] kde-base/konqueror (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE: Web browser, file  
manager, ...
[I] kde-base/kontact (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE personal information  
manager
[I] kde-base/ktnef (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE Viewer for mail  
attachments using TNEF format
[I] kde-base/libkcal (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE kcal library for  
KOrganizer etc
[I] kde-base/libkdenetwork (3.5.10-r1(3.5)@09/08/09): library common  
to many KDE network apps
[I] kde-base/libkdepim (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): Common library for KDE  
PIM apps
[I] kde-base/libkmime (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE kmime library for  
Message Handling
[I] kde-base/libkonq (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): The embeddable part of  
konqueror
[I] kde-base/libkpgp (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE pgp abstraction library
[I] kde-base/libkpimidentities (3.5.10(3.5)@25/06/09): KDE PIM  
identities library
Found 24 matches.
$


> Edit ~/.kderc to set defaults you like

I'd rather not - it's kinda clumsy. If the KDE Control Centre is  
working properly it'll only take a couple of presses of a down arrow  
to reduce the font size. That's much easier than spending time working  
out what the "-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0" all mean in ~/.kderc.

> Or you could install the kdebase-meta to get everything for a basic  
> session. A
> bit of a waste just for knode...

And on the other hand, it's kinda clumsy having to install all that,  
just to add a module to the KDE Control Centre.

Thanks for your help,

Stroller.