Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Maxim Wexler]

On 6/16/09, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:39:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> I also find in general that rescue systems are not very good at these
>> desktopy things, and automagic SD card hotplugging is very much
>> something driven by desktop usage. Try by all means, I just think YMMV.
>
> Except Maxim doesn't want automatic hotplugging, he wants to mount the LV
> from init scripts.
>
Going cuckoo here @!#>. I said it was fixed.  I uncommented the
rc_hotplug line in rc.conf and rebooted and it worked! The volumes
were found and mounted. Fantasia! Now I rebooted again having tried to
shut of dhcpcd, using rc-update del net.lo  because I'd rather do that
manually, but not only do the  volumes not mount, dhcpcd is still
running and taking its own sweet time finding out there is no net
service available at this location unless it involves a phone line.

Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging.

Another strangeness: under init.d the two links depscan.sh and
runscript.sh came up as broken(flashing red) when the volumes WERE
mounted and now that they ARE NOT mounted the links are intact. Defies
logic :-(

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:32:56 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote:

> Going cuckoo here @!#>. I said it was fixed.  I uncommented the
> rc_hotplug line in rc.conf and rebooted and it worked! The volumes
> were found and mounted. Fantasia! Now I rebooted again having tried to
> shut of dhcpcd, using rc-update del net.lo  because I'd rather do that
> manually, but not only do the  volumes not mount, dhcpcd is still
> running and taking its own sweet time finding out there is no net
> service available at this location unless it involves a phone line.
> 
> Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging.

I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to
"!net.*" to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the boot
runlevel, you really don't want to disable that, and
it doesn't need DHCP.


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Maxim Wexler]

>> Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging.
>
> I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to

you said "automatic" hotplugging; is that something else?

> "!net.*" to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the boot

thanks Neil, speeds up the boot process a lot. May I ask where you got
that? It's not in man rc.conf.

mw

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:41:14 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote:

> >> Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging.  
> >
> > I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to  
> 
> you said "automatic" hotplugging; is that something else?

I explained that in my previous post, Alan was referring to desktop
hotplugging, like mounting removable devices when they are connected, a
completely different use of the same word.

> 
> > "!net.*" to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the
> > boot  
> 
> thanks Neil, speeds up the boot process a lot. May I ask where you got
> that? It's not in man rc.conf.

It's in the comments in the original file.


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Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 17 June 2009 17:44:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to  
> >
> > you said "automatic" hotplugging; is that something else?
>
> I explained that in my previous post, Alan was referring to desktop
> hotplugging, like mounting removable devices when they are connected, a
> completely different use of the same word.

The only reason I brought up a desktop system is that I've found Ubuntu to be 
a very reliable distro for finding out which *kernel modules* are actually 
needed - because it does convenient "automagic stuff" and does it right.

The fact that it's aligned around desktop users is of no significance here, 
but looking back, it would be easy to miss that bit.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:14:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> The fact that it's aligned around desktop users is of no significance
> here, but looking back, it would be easy to miss that bit.
> 

It was where you said

> I also find in general that rescue systems are not very good at these
> desktopy things, and automagic SD card hotplugging is very much
> something driven by desktop usage.

This isn't about hotplugging or mounting the card, which is very
desktopy, it stays in place,but hotplugging/autoloading the driver for
the card slot.


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Neil Bothwick

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