From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MFoL0-00038z-Gq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:57:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EE32E07E4; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751F5E07E4 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so2238yxe.32 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=oToylqJz/g7IcNZ8bGPFOEDRMxbOSz8JFeVkh7clTrc=; b=nEN5RHqB4bDnO4pgHpX1MCBxMOXyBWPGhW3vYxcy2aI4zsdwD9z2UF3/0t4da7/w/c BfUN4YVATy8eSqjSdqCzhasvC/FQP5qBtQWGGTPuJawRLWyk569r2jaUFyC6phjJTuOt d2Ga7UXdks9sQ8lYLrcKN92v8CdM53L/uiviA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=ndCLdf/Umrc5gZbkFIyhQfFZ6FQVsQTOBdYx3X6U6vla+1kaPVpeEHGLLoKoNxwnGI wNhWjbnnp6iXC9+jyUloONTYWrfvYeVTqkTXo9wm9b9mRLx+ZxaqxItzZqT41w8/v61W fWkcVF5UrKgtLiPIUZT3OUX6wNVfcHmKGXSok= Received: by 10.90.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr5143244agb.86.1244980643329; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-123-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm3897060aga.5.2009.06.14.04.57.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:57:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:55:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.2.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <4A34D8DA.5010902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A34D8DA.5010902@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906141355.43171.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3010adcc-b3de-4c51-a8b1-c19da0df9d28 X-Archives-Hash: f03e255d70769ddf27d4c79348947298 On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:02:50 AG wrote: > Hi all > > Thanks for the responses to my earlier query regarding co-location of > Debian and Gentoo on the same HDD. > > I still have a few questions regarding an installation before I take the > plunge: > > (1) Looking through the background docs, it occurs to me that if I > wanted to install Gentoo on my system, I would need access to a second > machine that is running all of the on-line docs that guide one through > the installation process. Is this correct? If not, how does one refer > to the (seemingly quite comprehensive) guidelines whilst in the middle > of an installation? With links or link2 or lynx - it's on the stage 3. Get network up and running, view docs in text mode > (2) When Gentoo installs its libraries, does this duplicate the > libraries already on my machine? For instance - if I have OOo and KDE > and Xfce4 loaded as part of my Debian Squeeze system, will Gentoo also > install its own version of OOo, KDE and Xfce4 alongside the Deb files? > I was thinking that this would have a number of implications in terms of > space and (potentially) in how the drive is partitioned for the Gentoo > installation ... unless I'm missing the point? Yes. You have two complete operating systems, and they share very little, if anything. Don't try and be tempted to share binaries - that way does madness lie. > (3) What differences would I likely experience between running my > Debian installation and the Gentoo installation? That's not a question that anyone except you can answer - it's like asking me what different experience will you have between your ex-wife and current girlfriend. I have no idea, nor any way to find out. They will be different, that much is true. Gentoo will work the way you set it up, I can't even warn you about sudo instead of su a la Ubuntu as Gentoo let's you do it either way. If you use Gnome, you will get Gnome's default theme (a blue one?) instead of say Ubuntu's Human theme. Changing that is a simple emerge and a few mouse clicks. What you will do is spend an insane amount of time trying to figure out what a certain USE flag actually does an if you want it. Debian doesn't give you that choice. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com