From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ME1gl-0003CW-TN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:48:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7132E02C9; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858B5E02C9 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so4694991ewy.34 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:48:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=O9d2Ba1DfXFMNIPTQY6vJZVBX5/VhVl0BFF/XhGWIaw=; b=XPVhs59exCUZCgxeAWJF0StOg5mNncAkd9rU1AVmNkQhMvKgMaAAjt7eJn5oABvier 3Dt8CMBlpBb3ivj5Nr6mQ7Tm6QjOVe1yIJr7npZsYvvXzZUDAR8WhEpC7fmiHN4JT2Yl NWO7I4kYAN9cQCygHi2bdz7+b24iHiSNNJIe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=PRJm9/SwvGTReFsj4IXfdv0x2oVd5AQ98Lj2P/OTKAGy7VovJR7yzUPC6Q6aZ3Fr+X L6d2g+M5g/16FKQ/qHg/BzQn5htV/ZxSKqZ/stqAK5qXc4i6ZaE2zCIqsfb8/zp2N5uW Bfm2WjXcRpwSiSlJel6gEzwq+8pk8PWv+o9wo= Received: by 10.210.19.7 with SMTP id 7mr138875ebs.76.1244555308969; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.197.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm8190899ewy.80.2009.06.09.06.48.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:48:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Trying SRC_URI first during fetching Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:48:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.90 (Linux/2.6.29.4r4; KDE/4.2.90; x86_64; ; ) References: <9D738A58-9395-405F-9B4A-0FF7FFA686D0@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <200906091534.33767.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200906091534.33767.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200906091548.27007.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: b0aece8a-285f-405a-9381-837cfbb066d9 X-Archives-Hash: a791ae42b7c2bfe6a27f045f0a65ceaa On Dienstag 09 Juni 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 09 June 2009 15:04:54 Stroller wrote: > > On 9 Jun 2009, at 05:16, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > Normally, portage will try fetching from GENTOO_MIRRORS during an > > > emerge and SRC_URI comes last. I want to reverse this; try SRC_URI > > > first and if that fails, only then proceed to fetch from > > > GENTOO_MIRRORS. Doable? > > > > This is undesirable behaviour - te mirrors exist because SRC_URI may > > often have limited bandwidth. > > > > The package's hosting may be donated to the software's author, for > > instance, by a 3rd party, so when you go directly to SRC_URI, avoiding > > mirrors, you wear out the author's welcome. > > > > Mirrors are hosted by people with gallons & gallons of bandwidth to > > spare, who expect you to use it. > > > > It makes sense to use the mirrors FIRST. > > Definitely. > > I have to beat users over the head (metaphorically) with a stick to get > them to use my mirror. They somehow have the idea that SRC_URI has better > quality bits than my ftp server... > > By going to SRC_URI every time, they use up precious international > bandwidth instead of local (of which there is heaps). Every six months, > when Fedora or Ubuntu does a release, those users can saturate the entire > pipe into this *country* - just to get isos that I already have publicly > available and am begging them to use. my university has a nice volume cap for all students. But everything downloaded from its own network - including the ftp servers is 'free' - only outside traffic counts. Luckily, my university hosts a major gentoo mirror. Not rsync, but distfiles. They also have ubuntu, suse, fedora stuff. Windows updates.. and still people don't use it. Annoying.