From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MAofV-0000Z1-Fd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:17:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51F25E01C5; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F89E0228 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so6664752ewy.34 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=/5QC3Kg483MpCibM7nFTUOH8MnkCMAGqZ++LYkSVT8A=; b=eKDlTjKbGOy1KALbRORSgE5ZgI7nKUCz8qZsECBwA6zyuwBAg1Us67fsNJVtcWZQ+E teoh8JwO0HzM6/E7EskZ+Nx8SdFNaypshigvo/B1oEnypPinRPBueOp8AqX+2r9h+mxn vIY92A7q3LZoQ10j8y2O2p45Q2zJxVejRlX4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=oBwkLQQd1wwcK0pIiOzAgwTd53BUtXbdeI8T5e2oc6iQFRnMCfYRoju7OCQWfzFGgW X8SAzWQSC95rC6HS0CQmVz0tTfFtRJAzh5jfgi7DMKr/daEE3hntkacuZaJc8BorPQVx obOrYzCikgBkA+IBJA+06fgpnA/6ObFfPjGJk= Received: by 10.210.79.9 with SMTP id c9mr939055ebb.75.1243790275538; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-123-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm6142388eyd.2.2009.05.31.10.17.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 31 May 2009 10:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Running two apaches and MySQLs on the same server Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:16:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <200905281957.19368.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200905282206.55838.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <200905310027.13491.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200905310027.13491.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905311916.28780.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: bc689fe2-b366-4da8-b5c9-309dc642594e X-Archives-Hash: d67f1667b4f8095b973629a5c61789d8 On Sunday 31 May 2009 01:27:07 Mick wrote: > > Added to that, my employer is an ISP and not shy with budgets, so a > > purchase order for new hardware in a case like this will not raise any > > eyebrows. For me, it's a low level of risk high impact scenario and the $ > > cost is low. > > > > In a budget-constrained environment, it would obviously work very > > differently > > Well, I am in a very cost constrained environment I'm afraid. Good advice > given here - I am now thinking that a virtual server is the next stage. > Any idea how it would run on a single CPU machine - or must we bite the > bullet and go for some multicore monster? virtualization can give surprisingly pleasant performance figures. It's VASTLY improved since vmware still caught on, and web sites don't necessarily have to be resource hogs. So what I would do is get your hands on a spare machine somewhere (you might need to get creative here...) and test out all the well-known virtualization technologies (vmware-server, virtualbox, kvm, qemu). My experience has been that as long as you don't run X on the hosts or guests, performance is good. If you are already running out of steam on a single-cpu machine, then you'd need an upgrade anyway and no amount of magic sauce technology can change that - it takes budget ;-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com