From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M8GU2-0005q6-2g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 16:23:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 410ECE04D2; Sun, 24 May 2009 16:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com (mail-ew0-f165.google.com [209.85.219.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6AE04D2 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 16:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2547907ewy.34 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=vimmd3l3rY829WZtauSVyYLoFfZk7BjtHmn/ZWQWFk4=; b=d7p2/9MSRql70G6aAYoxxsMR+DIUP465TRCbuwpKoq4X0ShCXbp5YElxRyWAG6VXd6 wRh14y7T1UulRtFz+/tg0dvOoljvw2HPhl2cbPkRnadEZ90Keb6lGlzk0TUwnqDCEX72 qJWbG3CkGyykoLhqBJWu+a5kyLhmu+nad/6pY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=xni/YXV6Zk52GCAjf2xhs9A4zpTuEUioIiTRbfc1Dn3N2lG/XuHFxKULeuJZ6Mq6Vt V4vya/utml7kiPNt1dQFhCtb0E1Hqn1N2h2PNiiMuMAmYYyTQ4IIcAqgdGh9TZ/W7Rx7 09hNSgEul6J1HB5nXECtQKaAgouN1nn1/90IE= Received: by 10.210.18.18 with SMTP id 18mr3707695ebr.31.1243182211447; Sun, 24 May 2009 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-19-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm4225745eye.36.2009.05.24.09.23.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 24 May 2009 09:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo-r4; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <983967.82330.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A193AC3.9020002@gmail.com> <20090524152625.72179f44@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090524152625.72179f44@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905241822.05300.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: e2c4042a-63bd-40c6-92e2-604563503557 X-Archives-Hash: c99d7cadfb1c950f374d79d57b50631d On Sunday 24 May 2009 16:26:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > 2: Once #1 happens, your pretty much screwed because you don't even > > have a binary backup even tho it is set in make.conf to have one. That > > was the reason I put that setting in make.conf but someone chose to > > screw with my setting and its meaning. > > Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system has > changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a need > for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of portage. That may well be the way it IS, but it certainly is not the way it SHOULD BE. The only sane way to do this is: if (pkgmgr=portage) python in @system else python !in system end Any other rendition is just insanely crazy and whilst it may be per spec, is more like the way Windows works than the way Gentoo works.... Plus it violates the principle of no unexpected side-effects. Conditionals includes into system should have been in place before this change was made. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com