From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M891z-0003L9-BJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 08:26:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CCF8E02F0; Sun, 24 May 2009 08:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.145]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB3EE02F0 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 08:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 26so563141eyw.10 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=dQmlysdM3o3SMr3ijyCzCPB1JifYV4/wbcgvxiKv+vw=; b=b9jxfNGSUHKa9BwUDhVDJkK9YGEgpuOV0LMKsHQteTYoid5Fgjl9XQ3wiD/vIT27Qy j4436GwA9IAgmDt3Ab4eY/tv/uoKw9dPL2MfkqF+SliejCwvsFWlzou5Sp/i9uWhBtQb DycHSAKxsDbgcWfgfN3K8GUsZWj1ZSz344vA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=TKTRXxVyWAdczGc6Rtmc9JDGiE3+70Qmn8F1dZNwwMY45UCPWIUQ+nDJIkKmsRT/Z3 0ANCE5kNdttfuxhNoUwyIbSoSFVSBgQ7WRCWKqvdvFZfQPIhzfroJF8RqjkKgkAuL3pa 04nwismGJlbLTOJ8I4zSeDj8SlC9I6Cs0ou3Y= Received: by 10.210.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr3204298ebc.97.1243153564797; Sun, 24 May 2009 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-19-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm10719335eyf.28.2009.05.24.01.26.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 24 May 2009 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Sparse files and df Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:24:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo-r4; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20090524124207.2bc0bf86@coercion> In-Reply-To: <20090524124207.2bc0bf86@coercion> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905241024.39643.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d62fe559-33d1-49b6-9097-d897e91f164e X-Archives-Hash: 0769163f2be3cbbfb5cfe3b071cc0ea2 On Sunday 24 May 2009 08:42:07 Mike Kazantsev wrote: > Now I know that df can actually show weird results sometimes but I > wonder why (re)moving files from a file system doesn't affect it's > output at all. I had this on an Oracle machine a while ago - huge amounts of space being consumed by files that are not there. It was deleted files to which a running process still had an open handle. lsof | grep 'deleted' reveals these buggers > Do I really have 5G there which will be depleted soon and there's > nothing I can do to help it? > If not, how come anyone trusts df output at all when it can report > almost-empty fs to be almost-full? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com