From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4FyE-0005Sz-1F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:02:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A36DE02C0; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com (mail-ew0-f165.google.com [209.85.219.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBC0E02C0 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so922963ewy.34 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=OmBvncN2Y37f1KNZqzdlDDwslodVNL0QTm0bMLLi7jw=; b=SgrxQgRMsA4nWusDxrCWEKvdm5VziekK1dqTYI6u3DbikimISyzODgwvLN/FGITCRu 4BGndSNSjnME34HG0rf1G57ER5cSC0rE/skLFPILXv4z6zvqCvxTPZRETwZ2gQJCcpIK wbpDJGPDIAqegz2pMQ6ra/wwFQW5L/Smyu4yI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=VUUSm8SUhm+bO6N7IuuR8QND7MOkV6IkrZTITMTyHaGTxqvucYnduGYyOyLtnqgyV0 lY3IIPm4mB50GWM3SQAwaj6Ki5aOw8od9bBKuFyiJFV/kWodCUVTpN1yvl8vhO1OI6aX MuSTWuAvn7Xd5+uNaiEHuf0sZAStSAzArZMrs= Received: by 10.211.195.13 with SMTP id x13mr8420749ebp.82.1242226927805; Wed, 13 May 2009 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-19-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm133900eyh.10.2009.05.13.08.02.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 May 2009 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to recover a portage that wasn't in use for very long time Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:00:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <1430318F-36A1-4095-B8DE-014A1915AC67@gmail.com> <200905131627.25975.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905131700.36125.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: da51a83c-a453-4105-b4ba-5791f2b76153 X-Archives-Hash: d2ec99b2c9ff9f6972627cce844291d3 On Wednesday 13 May 2009 16:49:52 Stroller wrote: > I reread Alexey's post after replying to yours, and the reason he's > having problems is because he's being careless. If you break the > system, it's obviously a gamble whether you'll get your ass out of the > problem you created for yourself. If you want to be sure of not > breaking the system then you have to be cautious, resolve EACH and > EVERY dependency in turn and not just go "fukkit, i don't know what > that package does so, i'll ignore or unmerge it, upgrade this other > package to the latest version and hope everything resolves". Very true. I see he's got the bash/portage mutual blocker one as well. Nasty one that - only by close study of the ebuilds did I manage to figure out that - upgrade bash to interim version in the tree - upgrade portage to latest - upgrade bash to latest was the only way through. In those days we didn't have automatic blocker resolution in portage either. And yes, if Alexey is being careless then portage is going to bite his ass. Alexey, if you read this: Do not unmerge bash, portage, wget or python without first making a quickpkg. Otherwise you will be left with an unusable system and no way out of it - portage uses those packages directly and cannot function without them. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com