[gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Marc Blumentritt]

Hi,

when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and 
building the modules), I get this error message:

hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
[...]
   INSTALL sound/core/snd-timer.ko
   INSTALL sound/core/snd.ko
   INSTALL sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko
   INSTALL sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
   INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx-modem.ko
   INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko
   INSTALL sound/soc/snd-soc-core.ko
   INSTALL sound/soundcore.ko
   DEPMOD  2.6.29-gentoo-r3
   CHK     include/linux/version.h
   CHK     include/linux/utsrelease.h
   SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86
   CALL    scripts/checksyscalls.sh
   CHK     include/linux/compile.h
/usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3/usr/Makefile:41: *** mixed implicit and 
normal rules.  Stop.
make: *** [usr] Error 2

The same happens with stable gentoo-sources and stable vanilla sources.

This thing worked a few weeks again (I first noticed the error 
yesterday, but this does not mean, that it was the first time the error 
there).

Any ideas, what could be wrong or how to identify the problem?

Marc

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Arnau Bria]

On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
Marc Blumentritt wrote:

> Hi,
Hi,
 
> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and 
> building the modules), I get this error message:
> 
> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
I just do make all && make modules_install ...


cheers,
Arnau

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>
>> Hi,
> Hi,
>
>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>
>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
> I just do make all && make modules_install ...

I do:

make all
make install
make modules_install
make firmware_install

seperately :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>       
>> Hi,
>>
>>     
>>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>>
>>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
>>>       
>> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
>> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>>     
>
> I do:
>
> make all
> make install
> make modules_install
> make firmware_install
>
> seperately :)
>
>
>   

I do like Arnau does.  It works here.  What is that "firmware_install"
part anyway?  I haven't ever seen that before.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
>>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>>>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>>>
>>>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
>>>>
>>> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
>>> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>>>
>>
>> I do:
>>
>> make all
>> make install
>> make modules_install
>> make firmware_install
>>
>> seperately :)
>>
>>
>>
>
> I do like Arnau does.  It works here.  What is that "firmware_install"
> part anyway?  I haven't ever seen that before.

Why, it installs firmware of course. :) It looks like it was added
almost a year ago. Here are the patch check-in notes:

From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...>
To: <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: [PATCH 03/18] firmware: Add 'firmware_install' make target
Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 4:01 am

This installs all the in-kernel-tree firmware into $(INSTALL_FW_PATH),
which defaults to $(objtree)/usr/lib/firmware and is intended end up
in /lib/firmware for udev to find the files.

This, in conjunction with the builtin-firmware support, makes it simple
for drivers with associated firmware to move over to request_firmware()
and give the user a choice of whether to have it built in to the kernel
image or loaded separately from userspace.

As with kernel header installation for userspace, it intentionally pays
no attention to configuration variables -- it installs _all_ available
firmware blobs, unconditionally.

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel

[Marc Blumentritt]

Arnau Bria schrieb:
>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
> 

I used this command only to show the problem I have. I have a special 
setup, where I place nearly the complete root file system inside the 
kernel image (only /usr is added via a squashfs mount). I use for this 
the kernel option "General setup -> (/path/to/my/files) Initramfs source 
file(s)". When I change the source files, I have to recompile the kernel 
(just running make) to include the changes inside the kernel. This has 
worked up until last week.

Now I always get the error I reported in my first email.

Regards,
Marc

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel

[Marc Blumentritt]

Marc Blumentritt schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and 
> building the modules), I get this error message:
> 
> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
> [...]
>   INSTALL sound/core/snd-timer.ko
>   INSTALL sound/core/snd.ko
>   INSTALL sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko
>   INSTALL sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
>   INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx-modem.ko
>   INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko
>   INSTALL sound/soc/snd-soc-core.ko
>   INSTALL sound/soundcore.ko
>   DEPMOD  2.6.29-gentoo-r3
>   CHK     include/linux/version.h
>   CHK     include/linux/utsrelease.h
>   SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86
>   CALL    scripts/checksyscalls.sh
>   CHK     include/linux/compile.h
> /usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3/usr/Makefile:41: *** mixed implicit and 
> normal rules.  Stop.
> make: *** [usr] Error 2
> 
> The same happens with stable gentoo-sources and stable vanilla sources.
> 
> This thing worked a few weeks again (I first noticed the error 
> yesterday, but this does not mean, that it was the first time the error 
> there).
> 
> Any ideas, what could be wrong or how to identify the problem?
> 

I forgot to add the following information:
1.) I used fresh kernel sources (meaning fresh download and installation 
via portage).

2.) When I try to remove the compiled file by running "make clean" I get 
the following error:
hive linux # make clean
   CLEAN   arch/x86/boot/compressed
   CLEAN   arch/x86/boot
   CLEAN   /usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3
   CLEAN   arch/x86/kernel/acpi/realmode
   CLEAN   arch/x86/kernel/cpu
   CLEAN   arch/x86/kernel
   CLEAN   arch/x86/vdso
   CLEAN   drivers/char
   CLEAN   init
   CLEAN   kernel
   CLEAN   lib
/usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3/usr/Makefile:41: *** mixed implicit and 
normal rules.  Stop.
make: *** [_clean_usr] Error 2

Again, this happens with stable gentoo and vanilla sources, too.

Any ideas?
Marc

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>     
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
>>>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>>>>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>>>>
>>>>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
>>>> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I do:
>>>
>>> make all
>>> make install
>>> make modules_install
>>> make firmware_install
>>>
>>> seperately :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I do like Arnau does.  It works here.  What is that "firmware_install"
>> part anyway?  I haven't ever seen that before.
>>     
>
> Why, it installs firmware of course. :) It looks like it was added
> almost a year ago. Here are the patch check-in notes:
>
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...>
> To: <linux-kernel@...>
> Subject: [PATCH 03/18] firmware: Add 'firmware_install' make target
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 4:01 am
>
> This installs all the in-kernel-tree firmware into $(INSTALL_FW_PATH),
> which defaults to $(objtree)/usr/lib/firmware and is intended end up
> in /lib/firmware for udev to find the files.
>
> This, in conjunction with the builtin-firmware support, makes it simple
> for drivers with associated firmware to move over to request_firmware()
> and give the user a choice of whether to have it built in to the kernel
> image or loaded separately from userspace.
>
> As with kernel header installation for userspace, it intentionally pays
> no attention to configuration variables -- it installs _all_ available
> firmware blobs, unconditionally.
>
>
>   

I'm not real sure what "firmware" is so I will have to look into this a
bit more.  Maybe that it would be something I, and maybe others, need to
do as well.  I'm sure if someone went to the trouble of making it that
it serves a purpose.

Thanks !

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
>>>>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>>>>>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
>>>>> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I do:
>>>>
>>>> make all
>>>> make install
>>>> make modules_install
>>>> make firmware_install
>>>>
>>>> seperately :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I do like Arnau does.  It works here.  What is that "firmware_install"
>>> part anyway?  I haven't ever seen that before.
>>>
>>
>> Why, it installs firmware of course. :) It looks like it was added
>> almost a year ago. Here are the patch check-in notes:
>>
>> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...>
>> To: <linux-kernel@...>
>> Subject: [PATCH 03/18] firmware: Add 'firmware_install' make target
>> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 4:01 am
>>
>> This installs all the in-kernel-tree firmware into $(INSTALL_FW_PATH),
>> which defaults to $(objtree)/usr/lib/firmware and is intended end up
>> in /lib/firmware for udev to find the files.
>>
>> This, in conjunction with the builtin-firmware support, makes it simple
>> for drivers with associated firmware to move over to request_firmware()
>> and give the user a choice of whether to have it built in to the kernel
>> image or loaded separately from userspace.
>>
>> As with kernel header installation for userspace, it intentionally pays
>> no attention to configuration variables -- it installs _all_ available
>> firmware blobs, unconditionally.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'm not real sure what "firmware" is so I will have to look into this a
> bit more.  Maybe that it would be something I, and maybe others, need to
> do as well.  I'm sure if someone went to the trouble of making it that
> it serves a purpose.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Dale

Firmware is the software that runs a piece of hardware... usually this
is stored in NVRAM on the device and the OS shouldn't have anything to
do with altering it, but some devices just have the firmware loaded by
drivers at run-time so they can use cheaper hardware (think about
Broadcom network cards, bluetooth dongles, winmodems). Or maybe
sometimes they have both, where the onboard firmware is used but can
be overridden by the driver. Almost everything has firmware, usually
updatable, from cellphones to CD-ROM drives to video cards to RAID
controllers to Playstations. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>     
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria <arnau@emergetux.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200
>>>>>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and
>>>>>>> building the modules), I get this error message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
>>>>>> I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I do:
>>>>>
>>>>> make all
>>>>> make install
>>>>> make modules_install
>>>>> make firmware_install
>>>>>
>>>>> seperately :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I do like Arnau does.  It works here.  What is that "firmware_install"
>>>> part anyway?  I haven't ever seen that before.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Why, it installs firmware of course. :) It looks like it was added
>>> almost a year ago. Here are the patch check-in notes:
>>>
>>> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...>
>>> To: <linux-kernel@...>
>>> Subject: [PATCH 03/18] firmware: Add 'firmware_install' make target
>>> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 4:01 am
>>>
>>> This installs all the in-kernel-tree firmware into $(INSTALL_FW_PATH),
>>> which defaults to $(objtree)/usr/lib/firmware and is intended end up
>>> in /lib/firmware for udev to find the files.
>>>
>>> This, in conjunction with the builtin-firmware support, makes it simple
>>> for drivers with associated firmware to move over to request_firmware()
>>> and give the user a choice of whether to have it built in to the kernel
>>> image or loaded separately from userspace.
>>>
>>> As with kernel header installation for userspace, it intentionally pays
>>> no attention to configuration variables -- it installs _all_ available
>>> firmware blobs, unconditionally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I'm not real sure what "firmware" is so I will have to look into this a
>> bit more.  Maybe that it would be something I, and maybe others, need to
>> do as well.  I'm sure if someone went to the trouble of making it that
>> it serves a purpose.
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> Dale
>>     
>
> Firmware is the software that runs a piece of hardware... usually this
> is stored in NVRAM on the device and the OS shouldn't have anything to
> do with altering it, but some devices just have the firmware loaded by
> drivers at run-time so they can use cheaper hardware (think about
> Broadcom network cards, bluetooth dongles, winmodems). Or maybe
> sometimes they have both, where the onboard firmware is used but can
> be overridden by the driver. Almost everything has firmware, usually
> updatable, from cellphones to CD-ROM drives to video cards to RAID
> controllers to Playstations. :)
>
>
>   


Ahhhhh, well since everything works very well here, I better leave all
that alone.  LOL  Old saying, don't fix it if it ain't broke comes to
mind here.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 12 May 2009, Marc Blumentritt wrote:
> Arnau Bria schrieb:
> >> hive linux # make && make modules_install && make
> >
> > just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make?
> > I just do make all && make modules_install ...
>
> I used this command only to show the problem I have. I have a special
> setup, where I place nearly the complete root file system inside the
> kernel image (only /usr is added via a squashfs mount). I use for this
> the kernel option "General setup -> (/path/to/my/files) Initramfs source
> file(s)". When I change the source files, I have to recompile the kernel
> (just running make) to include the changes inside the kernel. This has
> worked up until last week.
>
> Now I always get the error I reported in my first email.

Last time this happened to me (more than once), it was because I had selected 
something in the kernel that I shouldn't have.  I had to retrace my steps, 
removed the offending module and then it compiled and installed fine.
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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel

[Marc Blumentritt]

Mick schrieb:
> Last time this happened to me (more than once), it was because I had selected 
> something in the kernel that I shouldn't have.  I had to retrace my steps, 
> removed the offending module and then it compiled and installed fine.

I think you are right. Yesterday I had some time to look more closely 
into this and came to the same conclusion. I will first try to build an 
external initrd, which will be loaded during boot. Perhaps I will later 
switch back to include the initrd inside the kernel.

Thanks for your help.

Marc