From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M2oQI-00024X-RJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 09 May 2009 15:25:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0C9E036A; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com (mail-ew0-f165.google.com [209.85.219.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F419E036A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 15:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2450531ewy.34 for ; Sat, 09 May 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=FHfM7jB90ttwrOeesa0VDqCowtOt7oLna/cKGWNPej0=; b=KrgEdpkMDjn2nsL+90bKWk/VKgdi+P+bxARo2gccKzWhTuVaQ8m886wy0CJXWIa+Le ABZTCLO6K/r8YEj3NUEu5305oLb+s3QfB2P0dh7CSgAp0JF2NwosD3tIrCEIR6LKMr7e 9PEKaw/xXQXHE+VZr6P/QTvpm9fqHNhgeJqcU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=wkoLPoZxUeKGeMLFK5/3wbrMj7pmc5n2xhey3KrShiK/cq8KGp0YLyM7vwPjowPVgg 5JBiiT5R3bJUcS5h1WkNreHhnTGrN85pI2liPhABcUm4QCYql2xlbjgfE7CeqWHY6fnf TBn2fytASM+Um8AXMTwokvtfWqxRjARhV++UY= Received: by 10.216.22.206 with SMTP id t56mr2291647wet.131.1241882708521; Sat, 09 May 2009 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-140-95-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.140.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm3951925eyd.32.2009.05.09.08.25.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 May 2009 08:25:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: /boot or not /boot (was Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:23:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <73087.60162.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200905091441.44936.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <44616180-73A5-47BC-9A6B-44D2441E931E@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44616180-73A5-47BC-9A6B-44D2441E931E@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905091723.33852.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 58d7b340-b7ea-4a48-aad2-81fb1d0b0d65 X-Archives-Hash: ebdd06374a8e52294e6ffeaa1b3efb56 On Saturday 09 May 2009 15:13:35 Stroller wrote: > On 9 May 2009, at 13:41, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:20:46 schrieb Stroller: > >>> This is Gentoo, so you as the user define the rules. And for _me_, > >>> it definitely > >>> _is_ a rule. > >> > >> Could you possibly explain why, please? > > > > Because it eliminates the need for an initramfs (which I used until > > a few > > weeks ago), ... > > I believed you could manage without either a /boot volume or an > initramfs. > > Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. I think you are. The need for an initramfs has nothing to do with whether /boot is a separate partition of not. grub is equally happy loading the kernel from (hd0,0)/vmlinux or (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinux It has everything to do with making necessary kernel modules available at boot time. The kernel cannot load block device and filesystem drivers that are on the device it needs to read (chicken and egg). However, it can get them from a ram disk which is all an initrd is and which grub supports. Simply compile the drivers into the kernel. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com