[gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Alex Schuster]

Dear Gentooers,

I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with ATI 
Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?

I tried all sorts of ati-drivers, most (if any) did not compile. But that 
was because of tuxonice-2.6.29, so I downgraded to the stable 
tuxonice-sources-2.6.24-r9.

With ati-drivers 8.552-r2, X starts, but the mouse cursor does not move, nor 
does the keyboard do anything. At least I can switch back to the text 
console after pressing Alt-SysRq-R (this resets the keyboard), but only 
once.

With 8.501 and 8.542, X does not start due to "undefined symbol: 
miZeroLineScreenIndex" in fglrx_drv.so.

With radeonhd, X starts, but there is no mouse, and the keyboard does not 
work, even after the SysRq trick.

With plain radeon... I don't remember exactly, but it didn't work either.

I also downloaded ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run directly from the 
ATI site, it did not work better.

With vesa, I get the same result as with ati-drivers-8.552-r2. Strange, 
shouldn't this always just work? I thought the problem might be the new X 
1.5, so I downgraded xorg-server to 1.3. I get similar errors for 
ati-drivers. With vesa, radeon or radeonhd, X does not start any more, the 
X log tells me about module version errors. I guess I need to 
emerge -DautvN @world and rebuild the whole X stuff, but this fails due to 
slot conflicts with x11-libs/libXrender and x11-proto/renderproto:

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

x11-libs/libXrender:0

  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2', 'merge') pulled in by
    <x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.3 required by 
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6', 'merge')
    (and 25 more)

  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4', 'merge') pulled in by
    x11-libs/libXrender required by 
('installed', '/', 'kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.1-r1', 'nomerge')
    x11-libs/libXrender required by 
('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.8', 'nomerge')
    x11-libs/libXrender required by 
('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ksysguard-4.2.1', 'nomerge')
    (and 22 more)
[...]

So, libXrender 0.9.2 is needed by the old X, while KDE 4.2 stuff needs 
0.9.4?

I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble with 
her Radeon X1550 card. It used to work a wile ago, but after someupdates 
(mainly the kernel), it doesn't, and even the old drivers that used to 
work, compiled with the old kernel, do not work any more. But I did not dig 
too dep into that, as I hoped I could get X to work on my new PC and then 
use this setup for hers.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Mick]

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On Monday 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Dear Gentooers,
>
> I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with ATI
> Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?
>
> I tried all sorts of ati-drivers, most (if any) did not compile. But that
> was because of tuxonice-2.6.29, so I downgraded to the stable
> tuxonice-sources-2.6.24-r9.
>
> With ati-drivers 8.552-r2, X starts, but the mouse cursor does not move,
> nor does the keyboard do anything. At least I can switch back to the text
> console after pressing Alt-SysRq-R (this resets the keyboard), but only
> once.
>
> With 8.501 and 8.542, X does not start due to "undefined symbol:
> miZeroLineScreenIndex" in fglrx_drv.so.
>
> With radeonhd, X starts, but there is no mouse, and the keyboard does not
> work, even after the SysRq trick.
>
> With plain radeon... I don't remember exactly, but it didn't work either.
>
> I also downloaded ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run directly from the
> ATI site, it did not work better.
>
> With vesa, I get the same result as with ati-drivers-8.552-r2. Strange,
> shouldn't this always just work? I thought the problem might be the new X
> 1.5, so I downgraded xorg-server to 1.3. I get similar errors for
> ati-drivers. With vesa, radeon or radeonhd, X does not start any more, the
> X log tells me about module version errors. I guess I need to
> emerge -DautvN @world and rebuild the whole X stuff, but this fails due to
> slot conflicts with x11-libs/libXrender and x11-proto/renderproto:
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> x11-libs/libXrender:0
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2', 'merge') pulled in by
>     <x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.3 required by
> ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6', 'merge')
>     (and 25 more)
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4', 'merge') pulled in by
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.1-r1', 'nomerge')
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.8', 'nomerge')
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ksysguard-4.2.1', 'nomerge')
>     (and 22 more)
> [...]
>
> So, libXrender 0.9.2 is needed by the old X, while KDE 4.2 stuff needs
> 0.9.4?
>
> I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble
> with her Radeon X1550 card. It used to work a wile ago, but after
> someupdates (mainly the kernel), it doesn't, and even the old drivers that
> used to work, compiled with the old kernel, do not work any more. But I did
> not dig too dep into that, as I hoped I could get X to work on my new PC
> and then use this setup for hers.
>
> 	Wonko

I can't offer specific help because I do not have this card or have any 
experience with tuxonice kernels, but have you had a scroll through the many 
posts in this M/L and the gentoo forums about the new xorg package?  If you 
do not have a proper working xorg.conf with an older kernel, you should be 
better off trying hal+evdev and configuring some .fdi files if you have to.  
Add USE="hal" in xorg before you emerge it and also set INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" 
in your /etc/make.conf.  If you're lucky it may just work straight out of the 
box.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Dear Gentooers,
>
> I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with ATI
> Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?
>
> I tried all sorts of ati-drivers, most (if any) did not compile. But that
> was because of tuxonice-2.6.29, so I downgraded to the stable
> tuxonice-sources-2.6.24-r9.
>
> With ati-drivers 8.552-r2, X starts, but the mouse cursor does not move,
> nor does the keyboard do anything. At least I can switch back to the text
> console after pressing Alt-SysRq-R (this resets the keyboard), but only
> once.
>
> With 8.501 and 8.542, X does not start due to "undefined symbol:
> miZeroLineScreenIndex" in fglrx_drv.so.
>
> With radeonhd, X starts, but there is no mouse, and the keyboard does not
> work, even after the SysRq trick.
>
> With plain radeon... I don't remember exactly, but it didn't work either.
>
> I also downloaded ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run directly from the
> ATI site, it did not work better.
>
> With vesa, I get the same result as with ati-drivers-8.552-r2. Strange,
> shouldn't this always just work? I thought the problem might be the new X
> 1.5, so I downgraded xorg-server to 1.3. I get similar errors for
> ati-drivers. With vesa, radeon or radeonhd, X does not start any more, the
> X log tells me about module version errors. I guess I need to
> emerge -DautvN @world and rebuild the whole X stuff, but this fails due to
> slot conflicts with x11-libs/libXrender and x11-proto/renderproto:
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> x11-libs/libXrender:0
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2', 'merge') pulled in by
>     <x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.3 required by
> ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6', 'merge')
>     (and 25 more)
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4', 'merge') pulled in by
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.2.1-r1', 'nomerge')
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.8', 'nomerge')
>     x11-libs/libXrender required by
> ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/ksysguard-4.2.1', 'nomerge')
>     (and 22 more)
> [...]
>
> So, libXrender 0.9.2 is needed by the old X, while KDE 4.2 stuff needs
> 0.9.4?
>
> I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble
> with her Radeon X1550 card. It used to work a wile ago, but after
> someupdates (mainly the kernel), it doesn't, and even the old drivers that
> used to work, compiled with the old kernel, do not work any more. But I did
> not dig too dep into that, as I hoped I could get X to work on my new PC
> and then use this setup for hers.
>
> 	Wonko

a) the drivers you tried are acient
b) the drivers have nothing to do with input.
c) emerge input drivers and set up xorg.conf accordingly
d) if you want help, post information like Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf, versions of 
packages used, etc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> On Monday 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:

> > I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with
> > ATI Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?
[...]
> > I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble
> > with her Radeon X1550 card. It used to work a wile ago, but after
> > someupdates (mainly the kernel), it doesn't, and even the old drivers
> > that used to work, compiled with the old kernel, do not work any more.
> > But I did not dig too dep into that, as I hoped I could get X to work
> > on my new PC and then use this setup for hers.

> I can't offer specific help because I do not have this card or have any
> experience with tuxonice kernels, but have you had a scroll through the
> many posts in this M/L and the gentoo forums about the new xorg package? 
> If you do not have a proper working xorg.conf with an older kernel, you
> should be better off trying hal+evdev and configuring some .fdi files if
> you have to. Add USE="hal" in xorg before you emerge it and also set
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" in your /etc/make.conf.  If you're lucky it may
> just work straight out of the box.

I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and 
tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts, 
but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens.

I also tried an xorg.conf from Knoppix 5.3 and got the same effect.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:

> I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and
> tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts,
> but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens.

I assume you re-emerged xorg after you changed your INPUT_DEVICES with evdev 
in it, right?
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:
>
>> I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and
>> tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts,
>> but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens.
>
> I assume you re-emerged xorg after you changed your INPUT_DEVICES with evdev
> in it, right?

and re-emerge evdev after re-emerging xorg :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

[Alex Schuster]

Paul Hartman writes:

> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:
> >> I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES,
> >> and tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change
> >> - X starts, but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens.
> >
> > I assume you re-emerged xorg after you changed your INPUT_DEVICES
> > with evdev in it, right?

Oh, sure. Sorry for not mentioning this.

> and re-emerge evdev after re-emerging xorg :)

Didn't have it emerged before.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 3200 woes [solved, sort of]

[Alex Schuster]

Volker Armin Hemmann writes:

> On Montag 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:

> > I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC
> > with ATI Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?
[...]

> a) the drivers you tried are acient

All newer ones did not compile. I think. I tried so many combinations of 
kernels and drivers now, I do not remember everything. I think they did 
not compile, but that was due to a linking error with libGL. I found a 
bug-report stating that remerging mesa would help, and it did. Still no 
better results when running those drivers.
With newer kernels, I got other compile errors at higher versions of the 
drivers. 

> b) the drivers have nothing to do with input.
> c) emerge input drivers and set up xorg.conf accordingly

I don't understand. I have INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" 
in /etc/make.conf, and x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard and 
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse were emerged automatically.
About xorg.conf: I did this a lot of times in my life, either by creating 
it by hand, or adapting the xorg.conf.example, or via startx -configure. 
It worked most of the times. Now, I also used ati-config --initial, I 
copied over a working xorg.conf from Knoppix 5.3, and, after using evdev, 
I tried completely without it. Nothing worked. Sometimes X just did not 
start, but most of the times it did, but did not respond to mouse 
movement or Ctrl-Alt-Fn keyboard input.

> d) if you want help, post information like Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf,
> versions of packages used, etc.

Some of the logs are here:
http://wonkology.org/~wonko/tmp/radeonlogs/

I tried about every ati-driver not hard-masked with tuxonice kernels 
2.6.24-r9, 2.6.28-r3 and 2.6.29, and some with vanilla 2.6.27.12. I 
rmmoded the fglrx driver between the emerges, so the updated one would be 
loaded. I also tried radeon, radeonhd and vesa. Especially vesa should 
not make any trouble, I think, so I guess it's not a problem related to 
the ati-drivers, but to input drivers or something.


But I finally got it to work, by downgrading xorg-server to 1.3. It took 
me a while, messing a lot in the /etc/portage/ directory, because I got 
slot conflicts if not when trying to update @world. When this was done, I 
could remove most of the changes I made. Now I only need this in 
package.mask:
	>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.4
	>=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552
	>=x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4

And this in package.unmask:
	=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.471.3

I have a working X now, at least with 2.6.24-tuxonice-r9 - with 
linux-2.6.28-tuxonice-r3 I could not compile ati-drivers-8.471.3, and all 
never versions of ati-drivers want xorg-server-1.5. Which is bad, because 
8.471.3 will be removed soon from portage due to spring cleaning.

Anyway, I will deal with this later. I'm eager to try KDE 4 for the first 
time now... let's see what will happen. (Apart from KDM not starting, but 
that was due to dbus not running.)

	Wonko