From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LtlcV-0004BH-AQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:36:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F007DE0671; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-relay2.uniserve.ca (smtp-relay2h.uniserve.ca [216.113.194.206]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7419E0671 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip-133.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net ([216.99.56.133] helo=ca.inter.net) by smtp-relay2.uniserve.ca with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LtlcS-0003oV-6A for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:36:21 -0700 Received: by ca.inter.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:36:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:36:18 -0400 From: Philip Webb To: Gentoo User Subject: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye & good riddance Message-ID: <20090414163618.GB23359@ca.inter.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gentoo User Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Sender-Info: purslow@ca.inter.net X-Authenticated-Sender: X-Scanner: OK. Scanned. X-Uniserve-Spam-Score: 0.1 1 (/) X-Uniserve-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (0.1 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to trusted network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS X-Archives-Salt: 5343df07-5eb2-4c0e-a96f-468ba54f7079 X-Archives-Hash: 6663e5121b3097d50eb71d11b3cf8685 I unmerged all the kde-base/...-4.2.1 pkgs preparatory to remerging them with USE="kdeprefix" & it hit me: why am I wasting time on this rubbish ? KDE 4.2.1 is not -- as someone bluntly pointed out -- a successor to 3.5 : it's a whole new concept, not yet clear even in the minds of its developers. So I'm faced with something I don't want & it's also full of bugs: I don't want desktops to slide to/fro when I change them, it's nauseating; Konsole profiles don't work, Dolphin won't start as I want, add the wrong item to a panel & Plasma freezes with 1 CPU at 100 % . I cb content with Fluxbox, if KDE 3.5 disappears one day, but I do like the KDE 3.5 environment & many of its applications: they're reliable, highly-configurable, attractive & tasteful. There is an urgent need for a fork of KDE to improve 3.5 -> 3.6 , while leaving the silly candy-babies to ape Microsoft & Mac. I've removed the rest of what I installed to support KDE 4 (except Qt 4 ) & may install Xfce 4.6 next weekend to see how far it's come since I last used it in autumn 2004 (a poor 4.2 then). As I've said, I'm impressed with Thunar, which is way ahead of Dolphin & cb installed without most of Xfce 4 . There was an article in the Linux press last week about a plain user, who had had enough of Microsoft & tried out a Linux distro: what she loved most was the simple practical Fluxbox desktop ... -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca