From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LrEhR-00043d-Sv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:03:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 519F2E0392; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f163.google.com (mail-ew0-f163.google.com [209.85.219.163]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE673E0392 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2230364ewy.34 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=xVgFwi8enKjNX9+FvplowfP/AXbNX0HWMptVOU8XX70=; b=eeEKnKbIzEwleSPH5y+gy7rE1vGyDlxL5pYdj1K3oKyru3k9EARb+tecK1sw62WWrf 9iOa5kvgza9fR2qXhZje3tylUISkw47k6f6mq9x9HNFMNgIWg7n0rzeRCS5XFY5Zu7c+ Gt62vhz6DZ5eoywio2oTEiiwoNkTy2mxcbNNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=LnhQGk2cHrxCZaiGGBi0qXvxqiY3Fyxco3H9euTeEBkkFtuxY+2p2uvMNwmpo4zu5r VBzjYRrPQXfRkDJqKaDUDg7w14h/1tUjRYzKBwPexkw1ZbXDqPGeDH44AYamR/6gtIZ0 muXwRszdfF0nNheE46IzZbfJMdZUG7Tzu6Q1Q= Received: by 10.210.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr1826876ebd.82.1239123779418; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.197.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm6653527ewy.80.2009.04.07.10.02.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:02:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.90 (Linux/2.6.28.7r4; KDE/4.2.68; x86_64; ; ) References: <200904070939.57495.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200904071722.45547.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <200904071745.15835.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200904071745.15835.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200904071902.55403.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 9b177869-f7b7-455f-a4ca-e698c2143075 X-Archives-Hash: 354f9be7f1b713feec725030a2b49e82 On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean wrote: > > > > Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a > > > > device? > > > > It seems that would make things easier for all, since many people > > > > likely use the same devices in exactly or closely similar ways? > > > > > > > > I have to get my trackball working again the way I had before the > > > > upgrade. > > > > > > Not that I know of (but it's a good idea!); once you understand the > > > basic FDI syntax it is pretty easy to migrate your settings. Find the > > > device name of the trackball you want to set up in > > > /proc/bus/input/devices and then create an FDI which mimics the > > > settings you used in xorg.conf. The Ubuntu wiki has a decent little > > > tutorial on it: > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input > > > > which pretty much makes hal a bad idea. 'use hal so you don't have to > > edit files' and then have to edit hal's convoluted xml files instead of > > the simple, easy to read xorg.conf ... > > I've reached a point where I feel I need to move away from this, before I > cause damage to something! I am really annoyed that something which worked > fine (for me and it seems others too) since late 2003, is now broken and 3 > hours later I am still struggling to get it working. > > The human interface is NOT something people should be allowed to mess up in > this fashion without providing exhaustive documentation. People who want > fancy GUIs to setup their windowing system have a solution already: they > use bloody MSWindows! If they want to use Linux then they have Ubuntu. > > For me the documentation is not exhaustive *because* three hours later I > still cannot understand what and does. The logic > of the xml fdi file is not explained anywhere ... and it seems my guessing > skills are poor when all I want to do is get on with my work, rather than > take a test on reading the mind of xorg devs. > > I have managed to: > > 1. Set gb as the default keyboard and used > the /use-multiple-layouts-with-kbd.fdi.bz2 with some mods to be able to > switch languages as before. > 2. Set up the synaptics driver so that it performs a right area - vertical > scroll. > > However, I have failed to: > > 3. Effect a left click when I tap on the synaptics pad. > 4. Double click on the synaptics pad. > 5. Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart xorg > > This is what my fdi currently looks like: > ===================================================== > > > > > > > pc105 > gb,el > type="strlist">grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu > > > > > > > > synaptics > true > type="string">true > type="string">true > type="string">true type="string">true > > > > ===================================================== > > Can you please help? just do the stuff in xorg.conf and hal's 'settings' should be ignored.