[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.2

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.2

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage? 
Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.2

[Momesso Andrea]

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On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:40:36AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage? 
> Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.
>
You should subscribe the [gentoo-desktop] mailing list. Lately the
gentoo-kde team is active in that list with their announcements.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.2

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage?
> Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.

For the latest KDE stuff use layman and add the kde-testing overlay.

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.2

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage?
>> Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.
> 
> For the latest KDE stuff use layman and add the kde-testing overlay.

What happens when the ebuilds move to the tree?  Will I need to rebuild 
again?  And when ebuilds get changed, to they do revbumps in the 
overlay?  And when there are revbumps in the overlay, will they stay 
rev-bumbed when they enter the tree or are they reset to rev 0?  And why 
are all the ebuilds in the overlay in slot 0 instead of 4.2?

Yeah I know, too many questions :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.2

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage?
>>> Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.
>>
>> For the latest KDE stuff use layman and add the kde-testing overlay.
>
> What happens when the ebuilds move to the tree?  Will I need to rebuild
> again?  And when ebuilds get changed, to they do revbumps in the overlay?
>  And when there are revbumps in the overlay, will they stay rev-bumbed when
> they enter the tree or are they reset to rev 0?  And why are all the ebuilds
> in the overlay in slot 0 instead of 4.2?
>
> Yeah I know, too many questions :P

If it's the same version you won't have to recompile. Typically the
updates happen first in the overlay and then move to the tree, so by
using the overlay you get to skip the waiting period (at the expense
of /potential/ problems, though I haven't had any). Sometimes the USE
flags change so if you use --newuse you might run into some of that,
but that happens with non-KDE stuff in the normal portage tree, too.

If I look at the KDE ebuilds none of them should be in slot 0.
Everything from the KDE release should be either in slot 3.5 or 4.2.
Some KDE-compatible apps, however, like k3b, koffice, Amarok etc are
not part of the main KDE release and will use their own slot strategy
(and their own versioning strategy as well).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.2

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 07 April 2009 18:01:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> >> Is there a plan/roadmap for when KDE 4.2.2 will appear in Portage?
> >> Unfortunately, http://kde.gentoo.org doesn't seem to be updated at all.
> >
> > For the latest KDE stuff use layman and add the kde-testing overlay.
>
> What happens when the ebuilds move to the tree?  

Overlay ebuilds are for testing. You have no guarantee they are compatible 
with what is in the tree.

> Will I need to rebuild
> again?  

In an ideal world, you shouldn't have to. In this real world, I find I have 
to. Mixing tree and the kde overlays tends to produce weird things on my box 
that go away when I use exclusively one or the other.

> And when ebuilds get changed, to they do revbumps in the
> overlay?  

No. The overlay moves on to testing the next latest greatest thing.

> And when there are revbumps in the overlay, will they stay
> rev-bumbed when they enter the tree or are they reset to rev 0?

There is no direct connection between an overlay and the tree, it's like this 
for all overlays. If konqueror-4.2.2-r42 from the overlay is added to the 
tree, it is added as konqueror-4.2.2.

Why? Well, this is how portage works.

> And why
> are all the ebuilds in the overlay in slot 0 instead of 4.2?

They are not.

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