From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LrED4-00053U-S4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:31:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E75BE04FC; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f163.google.com (mail-ew0-f163.google.com [209.85.219.163]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26EAE04FC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2217701ewy.34 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:31:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=rlnsR0k8X07rsdpYmlkk/oyr05wZLEOPbWJTkjmCVcQ=; b=iEwjtpQMcThV6RrQ/koGsPahwbju6Ue0Mb8Kn+B3kJ71vD7c6uAKUDRVJL0Cb8I59f BSFmORvAm340xiqjDh55ha5zJi+3RncG7BYLRbzHwasyBBsitFRTXMbpz57nFW+OiDk+ 2UePTQC2WT8GLX3AdJdPIQhi2mtENA238kDT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=WHkoHjSVlstsVBPo9GJogwWpPXEuMzNJRzgge1A6Wvsp33piXM3YWQSdD0SEG5Driw /JGFeTRzeyoXFkt00lrAXdsLypwqeI9aCx6YZb8QQKJ8qBipyDFQa/8sD/ghRit9qHxz J+05VdSU8wHU0uQDELvrgn2uCcR+jB2frW7iE= Received: by 10.210.144.3 with SMTP id r3mr350292ebd.31.1239121866950; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.197.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm6619906ewy.56.2009.04.07.09.31.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:31:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.90 (Linux/2.6.28.7r4; KDE/4.2.68; x86_64; ; ) References: <200904070939.57495.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200904071722.45547.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <58965d8a0904070850m7426e271xa541c5a37a03a5c5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0904070850m7426e271xa541c5a37a03a5c5@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200904071831.05239.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d083a281-c4aa-4df7-811f-1988cbc4be54 X-Archives-Hash: f7a71dd6a2a6835c1391ade082e083f8 On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean wrote: > >> > Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a > >> > device? > >> > It seems that would make things easier for all, since many people > >> > likely use the same devices in exactly or closely similar ways? > >> > > >> > I have to get my trackball working again the way I had before the > >> > upgrade. > >> > >> Not that I know of (but it's a good idea!); once you understand the > >> basic FDI syntax it is pretty easy to migrate your settings. Find the > >> device name of the trackball you want to set up in > >> /proc/bus/input/devices and then create an FDI which mimics the > >> settings you used in xorg.conf. The Ubuntu wiki has a decent little > >> tutorial on it: > >> > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input > > > > which pretty much makes hal a bad idea. 'use hal so you don't have to > > edit files' and then have to edit hal's convoluted xml files instead of > > the simple, easy to read xorg.conf ... > > Well, I think ultimately it's part of a larger hotplugging idea and > autoconfig, not simply changing it from one format to another with no > additional reasons. Without hotplugging you needed to define > everything in xorg.conf no, not everything. I have been switching mice on the fly with running X for years. trackball, scroll whell mouse back to trackball back to mouse. No extra entry for the trackball needed - and no hal (the trackball is retired, as is the nice, simple three-button-scroll-wheel-mouse). >but now you can skip the FDI unless you have > some customized configuration customized like a german layout with a german keyboard.. I wasn't the first nor the last one stepping into that trap. > (and even things like keyboard layout > could be set up in gnome/kde/whatever rather than in xorg.conf/FDI). which doesn't help you with the xdm/kdm/gdm login screen. > But, yes, xorg.conf is certainly more human-readable than FDI files > for sure. oooh yes.