[gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

Using as my model:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml

to install eeexubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386-20090223.iso via a bootable usb key. Everything fine until this command:

# cp -r /mnt/cdrom/* /mnt/usb

resulted in this:

cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/dists/stable': Operation not permitted
cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/dists/unstable': Operation not permitted
cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/ubuntu': Operation not permitted

Some one in a forum says this doesn't matter. Very well, I carry on.

This command:

# mv /mnt/usb/memtest86 /mnt/usb/memtest

results in a file-not-found msg.

And when I try to boot get "Missing operating system".

I ran through the steps several times to make sure I wasn't leaving something out or adding something that wasn't there but the result was the same.

Does it really matter that I'm using 'Buntu? A look at the 'Buntu howtos for this procedure remind me why I prefer the gentoo method.

Neil, you there? How did you do it? I don't have a cd/dvd attachment for my tripleE, have to use a usb key.

Maxim


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

> Using as my model:
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
> 
> to install eeexubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386-20090223.iso via a bootable usb
> key. Everything fine until this command:

Why are you following the Gentoo instructions to create an Ubuntu disk?
AFAIR, eexubuntu comes with a script to create a bootable USB stick.

> # cp -r /mnt/cdrom/* /mnt/usb
> 
> resulted in this:
> 
> cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/dists/stable': Operation
> not permitted cp: cannot create symbolic link
> `/media/disk/dists/unstable': Operation not permitted cp: cannot create
> symbolic link `/media/disk/ubuntu': Operation not permitted

What sort of filesystem did you create on the stick? They use FAT by
default, which doesn't support symlinks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[maxim wexler]

> 
> Why are you following the Gentoo instructions to create an
> Ubuntu disk?

Because I'm insane.

> AFAIR, eexubuntu comes with a script to create a bootable
> USB stick.

Near's I can tell you have to burn a CD first, boot it, then run the script. Don't have a CD/DVD attachment for the tripleE

> 
> What sort of filesystem did you create on the stick? They
> use FAT by
> default, which doesn't support symlinks.

All the howtos say fat. 

I tried ext2, nope, syslinux wants fat.

Waaah! I only have gentoo and XP here at home on a verrrry sloooow dialup and this Xandros thing which connects nicely to the 'Net via wifi but has no tools.

OK, maybe I can burn a CD, boot into my home system, wipe XP, which I no longer use and install eeeXubuntu and run the script and ...Only thing I'm wondering is the iso meant to find a SSHD, had that problem for another distro I tried.

I'll let you know

mw



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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:05:07 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

> > AFAIR, eexubuntu comes with a script to create a bootable
> > USB stick.  
> 
> Near's I can tell you have to burn a CD first, boot it, then run the
> script. Don't have a CD/DVD attachment for the tripleE

You don't have to run it on the Eee. It's a live CD, just boot your
desktop/laptop from it to run the script.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[maxim wexler]

> You don't have to run it on the Eee. It's a live CD, just
> boot your
> desktop/laptop from it to run the script.

Aaaargh! Image too big, ~740M, guess I need a DVD burner. Do you happen to know off-hand if blank CDs come in > 700M?

Or, are you suggesting I can boot an *.iso some other way than CD or USB key?
That'll certainly be welcome news to me.

mw



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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:28:01 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

> Aaaargh! Image too big, ~740M, guess I need a DVD burner. Do you happen
> to know off-hand if blank CDs come in > 700M?

You can get 800MB discs.

> Or, are you suggesting I can boot an *.iso some other way than CD or
> USB key? That'll certainly be welcome news to me.

You may be able to loop mount the ISO and then run the script. Or you can
boot a virtual machine from the ISO.

There is always more than one way :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Joost Roeleveld]

> Hi group,
>
> Using as my model:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
>
> to install eeexubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386-20090223.iso via a bootable usb
> key. Everything fine until this command:
>
> # cp -r /mnt/cdrom/* /mnt/usb
>
> resulted in this:
>
> cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/dists/stable': Operation not
> permitted
> cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/dists/unstable': Operation
> not permitted
> cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/disk/ubuntu': Operation not
> permitted
>
> Some one in a forum says this doesn't matter. Very well, I carry on.
>
> This command:
>
> # mv /mnt/usb/memtest86 /mnt/usb/memtest
>
> results in a file-not-found msg.
>
> And when I try to boot get "Missing operating system".
>
> I ran through the steps several times to make sure I wasn't leaving
> something out or adding something that wasn't there but the result was the
> same.
>
> Does it really matter that I'm using 'Buntu? A look at the 'Buntu howtos
> for this procedure remind me why I prefer the gentoo method.
>
> Neil, you there? How did you do it? I don't have a cd/dvd attachment for
> my tripleE, have to use a usb key.

I ordered a TripleE as well and to prepare for it (in NL only versions
available are with MSWinXP :( ) I created a usb-key yesterday.

Was quite easy using "unetbootin", it's in the portage tree.
There is also a MS Windows version of this tool.
"emerge -va unetbootin"
It can build the USB-boot-stick using ISO-images

Wants to run as root, and make sure you pre-format the usb-stick with
vfat. If it keeps failing, fall back to having your XP-box format the
usb-stick, had to do this myself.

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Simon]

You might be interested in trying Slax (usb distro based on
slackware), the kde environment doesnt suit the size of the monitor
very well on the eeepc (if you have one that is as small as mine at
800x480), but using other wm works perfect.  Slax is extremely small
and comes with ISOs and TGZ that you just decompress in the usbkey and
then execute an install script (shell script or batch in windows) to
make it bootable.

You could use it, in text mode to get your other usb distro working.

Good luck!

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:05 PM, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Why are you following the Gentoo instructions to create an
>> Ubuntu disk?
>
> Because I'm insane.
>
>> AFAIR, eexubuntu comes with a script to create a bootable
>> USB stick.
>
> Near's I can tell you have to burn a CD first, boot it, then run the script. Don't have a CD/DVD attachment for the tripleE
>
>>
>> What sort of filesystem did you create on the stick? They
>> use FAT by
>> default, which doesn't support symlinks.
>
> All the howtos say fat.
>
> I tried ext2, nope, syslinux wants fat.
>
> Waaah! I only have gentoo and XP here at home on a verrrry sloooow dialup and this Xandros thing which connects nicely to the 'Net via wifi but has no tools.
>
> OK, maybe I can burn a CD, boot into my home system, wipe XP, which I no longer use and install eeeXubuntu and run the script and ...Only thing I'm wondering is the iso meant to find a SSHD, had that problem for another distro I tried.
>
> I'll let you know
>
> mw
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[maxim wexler]

> Was quite easy using "unetbootin", it's in the portage
> tree.
> There is also a MS Windows version of this tool.
> "emerge -va unetbootin"

Thanks Joost,

I did an emerge -pv unetbootin earlier but there were lots of blocks and masks plus it wants >100M downloads and I only get 2k from dialup here.

Didn't realize there was a Windows version. Better not wipe XP yet!

So I got this:

http://launchpad.net/unetbootin/trunk/276.exe/+download/unetbootin-eeeubuntu-windows-276.exe

(3.5M)and pointed it at the iso. Did the deed and rebooted. Now it's telling me:

Loading /ubnkern
Invalid or corrupt kernel image. 

So I guess it's back to the Wifi Cafe to dawdle over my coffee for an hour while I download another. Better run the checksum this time -- if Xandros has the tool!

mw


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem making bootable usb key

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Wed, April 8, 2009 7:20 pm, maxim wexler wrote:
>
>> Was quite easy using "unetbootin", it's in the portage
>> tree.
>> There is also a MS Windows version of this tool.
>> "emerge -va unetbootin"
>
> Thanks Joost,
>
> I did an emerge -pv unetbootin earlier but there were lots of blocks and
> masks plus it wants >100M downloads and I only get 2k from dialup here.
>
> Didn't realize there was a Windows version. Better not wipe XP yet!
>
> So I got this:
>
> http://launchpad.net/unetbootin/trunk/276.exe/+download/unetbootin-eeeubuntu-windows-276.exe
>
> (3.5M)and pointed it at the iso. Did the deed and rebooted. Now it's
> telling me:
>
> Loading /ubnkern
> Invalid or corrupt kernel image.
>
> So I guess it's back to the Wifi Cafe to dawdle over my coffee for an hour
> while I download another. Better run the checksum this time -- if Xandros
> has the tool!

Maxim,

Judging from the footer from yahoo, I am guessing you're in Canada?
Too bad, if you were closer to me, we could meet and probably do the
install in a cafe or somewhere...

Don't forget to format the usb-stick prior to running "unetbootin".

Good luck and keep us posted.

--
Joost