From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-93034-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Lr9KV-0007Ww-DD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:18:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D8FDE03AB; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f108.google.com (mail-qy0-f108.google.com [209.85.221.108]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B96E03AB for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so4571396qyk.32 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:18:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=lb72icQUIdQ9HYAyHGeH/joLCB3QxigAKGT3Q9ObevI=; b=E6PMoGqLt8d761bjEE73SgNDpJ2mKWOEwVHP2wmmvAb6kRBDAwwXRBKIXGWaHZcsfk BvaWm3SKfKIVflfmnB3niHw2JIc3s9SGrym+F7Gz3/KYVktNREVkXuQtTH5xYg4+/XrV l55Rz/fDocJr1Cj109ughHldn0ygTyEQupkdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=E6LjHDBel8YOl3hodhH9vF5NTB7BwB07oHtJPGcUDxriGpKHnewI/AxJ9boXU1Q/8X GaB37ghTBTgU5BkGjjnzhLcq6cQED7vpCBhWRR/QoPqiIq+108k18ucQjP9tfwUaL+IJ /PRuDI+xIPAfF+V5+aDk5V3B0sVHt2dHeDvr0= Received: by 10.224.74.81 with SMTP id t17mr20795qaj.59.1239103135868; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-140-97-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.140.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm17073374yxl.5.2009.04.07.04.18.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:17:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo; KDE/4.2.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200904070939.57495.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200904071246.26356.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <grfbrt$f88$1@ger.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <grfbrt$f88$1@ger.gmane.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904071317.21216.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 03cd719b-b605-4e4e-b1c1-7c7a2d941259 X-Archives-Hash: 197d796c34312d6c2fa19b5de13fbc2c On Tuesday 07 April 2009 13:02:28 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > [...] > > but my real problem is that hal crap. In their fight to make x 'easier' > > they make it harder. keyboard layout is incorrect? well, bad luck, > > because hal's files are a bitch to deal with. > > I suppose the intention was for GUI tools to do the configuration, but > as usual in Linux (:P) no one bothered because that would mean people > won't learn. > > So be happy. You're learning how HAL syntax works. That's good for > you. No? ;-) <tongue_in_cheek> Yes, it's wonderful. Let's face it, replacing something like Driver "evdev" with <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?><deviceinfo version="0.2"><device><match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys"><merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">keyboard</merge><match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name" string="Linux"><merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">evdev</merge></match></match></device></deviceinfo> Is so OBVIOUSLY the correct way to go, and so OBVIOUSLY much easier. Right? I mean, what kind of twit do you have to be to not understand the hal files? </tongue_in_cheek> -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com