[gentoo-user] full shutdown

[gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Simon]

Hi there,
  this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
 I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.

  I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
thing as my eeepc...

  When recompiling the kernel, I do: make && make modules_install;
then I recompile the drivers i have and install them, is there
anything else i should recompile, like should i re-emerge acpi?

  Also, I dont think it's related but, when doing 'startx', after,
when shutting down, the console screen doesnt update and is stuck on
the x11 and fvwm2 messages... it doesnt show the progress, any ideas?
(this is secondary though)

Thanks in advance guys!
  Simon

-- 
When Earth was the only inhabited planet in the Galaxy, it was a
primitive place, militarily speaking.  The only weapon they had ever
invented worth mentioning was a crude and inefficient nuclear-reaction
bomb for which they had not even developed the logical defense. -
Asimov

[gentoo-user] Re: full shutdown

[ABCD]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Simon wrote:
> Hi there,
>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
> 
>   I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
> if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
> installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
> kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
> difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
> most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
> different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
> the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
> thing as my eeepc...
> 
>   When recompiling the kernel, I do: make && make modules_install;
> then I recompile the drivers i have and install them, is there
> anything else i should recompile, like should i re-emerge acpi?
> 
>   Also, I dont think it's related but, when doing 'startx', after,
> when shutting down, the console screen doesnt update and is stuck on
> the x11 and fvwm2 messages... it doesnt show the progress, any ideas?
> (this is secondary though)
> 
> Thanks in advance guys!
>   Simon
> 

This probably isn't the problem, but try doing `shutdown -hP now`, and
see if that works - if it does, then there probably is a configuration
issue somewhere (but I'm not sure where that would be...).

- --
ABCD
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAknO0iEACgkQOypDUo0oQOpgtwCgsSQMLhxzqtJ3fc7Ot5fUznja
CLgAn2y0fPM8YvSzcPSq4+kxdGUXfdJM
=c5U0
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: full shutdown

[Saphirus Sage]

On Mar 28, 2009, at 9:42 PM, ABCD <en.ABCD@gmail.com> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Simon wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>  this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>> I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
>> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
>> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
>>
>>  I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
>> if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
>> installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
>> kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
>> difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
>> most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
>> different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
>> the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
>> thing as my eeepc...
>>
>>  When recompiling the kernel, I do: make && make modules_install;
>> then I recompile the drivers i have and install them, is there
>> anything else i should recompile, like should i re-emerge acpi?
>>
>>  Also, I dont think it's related but, when doing 'startx', after,
>> when shutting down, the console screen doesnt update and is stuck on
>> the x11 and fvwm2 messages... it doesnt show the progress, any ideas?
>> (this is secondary though)
>>
>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>  Simon
>>
>
> This probably isn't the problem, but try doing `shutdown -hP now`, and
> see if that works - if it does, then there probably is a configuration
> issue somewhere (but I'm not sure where that would be...).
>
> - --
> ABCD
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAknO0iEACgkQOypDUo0oQOpgtwCgsSQMLhxzqtJ3fc7Ot5fUznja
> CLgAn2y0fPM8YvSzcPSq4+kxdGUXfdJM
> =c5U0
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
I always use "shutdown now -hP" or it won't power down. I just figured  
that was standard. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: full shutdown

[Dale]

Saphirus Sage wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 9:42 PM, ABCD <en.ABCD@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> This probably isn't the problem, but try doing `shutdown -hP now`, and
> see if that works - if it does, then there probably is a configuration
> issue somewhere (but I'm not sure where that would be...).
>
>>
>>
> I always use "shutdown now -hP" or it won't power down. I just figured
that was standard.


I don't use the -p option and mine shuts down fine.  I did run into this
one time a lot time ago.  I had to change something in my kernel but I
can't remember what it was now.  I looked but couldn't find anything
either. 

Sorry I can't remember what it was.  Maybe it will come to me later on. 
Like right after hitting send.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Mike Kazantsev]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 870 bytes --]

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:24:39 -0400
Simon <turner25@gmail.com> wrote:

>   I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
> if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
> installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
> kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
> difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
> most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
> different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
> the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
> thing as my eeepc...

Make sure you have these:

PM and ACPI -->
  [X] PM support
  [X] ACPI support -->
    [X] Button

Even VMs won't cut the (virtual) power w/o these options.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Steffen Loos]

Simon schrieb:
> Hi there,
>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with the sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.

/> modprobe -v snd-hda-intel


Steffen

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Steffen Loos]

Steffen Loos schrieb:
> Simon schrieb:
>> Hi there,
>>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
>> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
>> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
> On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with the sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.
> 
> /> modprobe -v snd-hda-intel
sorry, 
/> modprobe -rv snd-hda-intel


Steffen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: full shutdown

[Simon]

I know, -P for powerdown after halt.  but it doesnt change anything on
both PC that have this issue and seems to have no effect on the one
that works fine with just -h

(Besides, with the number of people using linux, how many would want
to shutdown -h without powering down?)

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:42 PM, ABCD <en.ABCD@gmail.com> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Simon wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
>> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
>> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
>>
>>   I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
>> if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
>> installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
>> kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
>> difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
>> most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
>> different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
>> the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
>> thing as my eeepc...
>>
>>   When recompiling the kernel, I do: make && make modules_install;
>> then I recompile the drivers i have and install them, is there
>> anything else i should recompile, like should i re-emerge acpi?
>>
>>   Also, I dont think it's related but, when doing 'startx', after,
>> when shutting down, the console screen doesnt update and is stuck on
>> the x11 and fvwm2 messages... it doesnt show the progress, any ideas?
>> (this is secondary though)
>>
>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>   Simon
>>
>
> This probably isn't the problem, but try doing `shutdown -hP now`, and
> see if that works - if it does, then there probably is a configuration
> issue somewhere (but I'm not sure where that would be...).
>
> - --
> ABCD
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAknO0iEACgkQOypDUo0oQOpgtwCgsSQMLhxzqtJ3fc7Ot5fUznja
> CLgAn2y0fPM8YvSzcPSq4+kxdGUXfdJM
> =c5U0
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
>



-- 
When Earth was the only inhabited planet in the Galaxy, it was a
primitive place, militarily speaking.  The only weapon they had ever
invented worth mentioning was a crude and inefficient nuclear-reaction
bomb for which they had not even developed the logical defense. -
Asimov

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Simon]

OK, i'll check this out tonight (if i have enough time, and if i can remember!)

Thanks!

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Mike Kazantsev
<mike_kazantsev@fraggod.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:24:39 -0400
> Simon <turner25@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   I'm recompiling the kernel almost as often as I breathe and i wonder
>> if I'm not missing some steps (during or after)...  I have acpi
>> installed and init.d/acpi is started.  acpi support was compiled in
>> kernel and i tried with and without the CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS with no
>> difference.  I'm using kernel 2.6.24 (for several drivers that are
>> most compatible with this one).  I have almost the same install on 2
>> different PCs (with obvious tweakings in kernel options and /etc) and
>> the most recent one shuts down correctly, the older one does the same
>> thing as my eeepc...
>
> Make sure you have these:
>
> PM and ACPI -->
>  [X] PM support
>  [X] ACPI support -->
>    [X] Button
>
> Even VMs won't cut the (virtual) power w/o these options.
>
> --
> Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net
>



-- 
When Earth was the only inhabited planet in the Galaxy, it was a
primitive place, militarily speaking.  The only weapon they had ever
invented worth mentioning was a crude and inefficient nuclear-reaction
bomb for which they had not even developed the logical defense. -
Asimov

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Simon]

Interesting, I do use that module for sound...
I'll try to rmmod it before shutting down...

But my older pc (not eeepc) which has the same issue uses another
driver... so maybe the problem is both with kernel options and with
this driver on the eeepc...  ill give it a try!

Thanks a lot!

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Steffen Loos <fenlo@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Simon schrieb:
>> Hi there,
>>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
>> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
>> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
> On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with the sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.
>
> /> modprobe -v snd-hda-intel
>
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
When Earth was the only inhabited planet in the Galaxy, it was a
primitive place, militarily speaking.  The only weapon they had ever
invented worth mentioning was a crude and inefficient nuclear-reaction
bomb for which they had not even developed the logical defense. -
Asimov

Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

[Simon]

I was only able to test briefly and got it working, but only when i
did it manually.
Seems adding a rmmod line in local.stop doesnt help, I've been trying
to add other lines before like killall -9 mplayer (which is the main
prog using the sound device usually).

I'll be able to work my way!  Thanks a lot!

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Steffen Loos <fenlo@gmx.net> wrote:
> Steffen Loos schrieb:
>> Simon schrieb:
>>> Hi there,
>>>   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
>>>  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
>>> now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
>>> I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
>> On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with the sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.
>>
>> /> modprobe -v snd-hda-intel
> sorry,
> /> modprobe -rv snd-hda-intel
>
>
> Steffen
>
>



-- 
When Earth was the only inhabited planet in the Galaxy, it was a
primitive place, militarily speaking.  The only weapon they had ever
invented worth mentioning was a crude and inefficient nuclear-reaction
bomb for which they had not even developed the logical defense. -
Asimov