From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LV24k-0001WN-5x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:07:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD10BE0596; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f18.google.com (mail-ew0-f18.google.com [209.85.219.18]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657E0E0596 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy11 with SMTP id 11so90385ewy.10 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=VRBdDPuM2q+VIzg0AZV7M/xXWI99fVPVJUCW1BrydTY=; b=eoHqBVLG83trELsvfww7IHwbAGeTq+ny1OyKDWWo9KBDPe5a3VwtjG6/WkcZ3GMPtJ 57XYfxbauXPridIeEoXfKd14W2jpjA6bkqR94uYJfgQnDDbqEeuae678cnTLk8KJotgt g20QkUCtvduRMt2mz1L88CGN6e0+FxjuHn46Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=oZj0HIZS5cXYRRPXv81YzkREIah3Hc2RAQTvb6CWjAR8SP+L6ACCVGCiyIVs7uALsx ZGFhh1pBvUnig8P7zDciL/wq4iUd5/L1OcoM1QUsX0JrtAvEqniDuDPMB3rtY38RQkdT Ho4UtkrWUGMya+8ZGZfXkB8DArIkfhUNT1wBk= Received: by 10.210.91.17 with SMTP id o17mr301232ebb.28.1233831877271; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.197.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1114389ewy.75.2009.02.05.03.04.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:04:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (Linux/2.6.27.13r4; KDE/4.2.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <200902050841.29019.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902051204.35876.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 2f8d9d4d-8bb4-4222-b4f0-c0276f676189 X-Archives-Hash: 76e2e0a73900b300535dc25d4ef94042 On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Sebasti=C3=A1n Magr=C3=AD wrote: > >>> The installation experience with the traditional method must be > >>> mandatory... That's why I think we are better now that GLI is > >>> deprecated... > >> > >> That's not good. It hurts Gentoo's popularity if it's not easy to > >> install. But since there are not enough devs left for the GUI > >> installer, not much that can be done. > >> > >> Gentoo isn't unsuitable for a GUI installer. It's stage 3, after all. > > > > gentoo had its highest popularity when there were no gui installer (and > > no stable tree). This kept the stupid ' I don't want to read docs' crowd > > away. > > That's a contradicting statement. How was the popularity at highest if > it kept a crowd away? because it kept the 'i am too cool to read the docs' idiots away. Being for= ced=20 to read the documentation is a good thing - and it did not hurt gentoo's=20 popularity. Only after it started to catering to idiots and more and more o= f=20 loud mouthed 'I am the centre of the universe, I don't need to read docs, u= se=20 google or bugzilla. I demand an answer and help NOW' assholes came on board= ,=20 the popularity went down.