From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUzFX-0001zf-Kt for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:06:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DBF4E049C; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f14.google.com (mail-ew0-f14.google.com [209.85.219.14]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E21E049C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so114981ewy.10 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:06:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=u8dnASdLwXEPWuX20Ehkfx7Wx4jPTAkRCFz7QQOLZfw=; b=NKpvX+J603LrAlmXZVNc+uTGxGpoIaAvMH9ywzqxSpmD80uOSEzpXS6WzSWuEME3gm I3MnVw9d1OhhKfB3wzTSzi/kzaJAT55SFaZy2u+8L3gBH3fDVqxr9IPluvsT/+PHb+Gk gANcYUd1kfgSKMUpFmqKxZlIJyPMtq6ndB4wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=Dbr5N5L0MUkffMFjM2oN9YV8JWHTBax38qEcnGbpo5rLicshUfSN5fxyHvCbOn9zEc hkmjVOPseaUG3vJIvrUUj/PdaXyY+r8FCaGTb4oaxsSqLaskHwhVOO3gft16kTg/hRYJ Mbx903ulGiqS4wc8R/L66Dx6EMv5PbatCdIks= Received: by 10.210.104.20 with SMTP id b20mr173520ebc.85.1233821171060; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.20.0.5? (196-210-140-105-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.140.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9sm190028gvc.16.2009.02.05.00.06.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:06:10 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:05:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200902050937.25810.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <498A9BF2.5080309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498A9BF2.5080309@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902051005.02568.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 32ca381b-c97e-4650-8912-3344d399dcdf X-Archives-Hash: 40e504eb17282f82a7d508abd0eef238 On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:57:38 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 05 February 2009 09:28:50 Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: > >> There are enough easy-to-use distros. Let us, "masochists", live in > >> peace. We love pain, why do people care so much about what we do > >> with our privacy? :P [it's a joke, in case anyone didn't notice] > >> > >> There have been several attempts to make a decent installer. They > >> all failed miserably and got abandoned. Why? Because to tell the > >> truth, no one has an authentic interest in the matter. The simple > >> answer is most probably the right one. > > > > To add to you (excellent) arguments: > > > > There is no GUI admin tool for gentoo. You drive this puppy on the > > command line with tools like emerge, equery, genlop, layman and q. That= 's > > how it works, we are all comfortable with this, and this is good. > > > > I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate in a > > different manner to the way the thing will be used. > > Does porthole count? I use it sometimes and it is well all right. I > miss etcat myself. Just as I was starting to get used to it, it > disappeared. You're just stirring the pot Dale :-) I know for a fact that you can hold your own with emerge and eix :-) =2D-=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com