From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUobr-00012f-RM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:44:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8549E0745; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.148]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE7BE0745 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 13so331053eye.10 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:44:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=ET+Fj52cmZAgO8yht6eM28CG38qcRdpWoHp08VpUHLU=; b=c3nEL2upAgUaoAorBZkGmNxz66JOxynLxXErWP5X64dS+2Gsl411BVE8uwUfBgZ+K2 AQTnMYfZQsST/8Ubl2FVXZgitK0c7NrIdKwWyvuzysqnvC6bW5aEnqTwrfD9CclehYOG QjyUu4h77y0ndsU53UuBcD22H3oS4gTLxzHhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=VfFUntytTkVGs3V23Sy/KUpMGGu233GfYj88UZ4W82I4QdKp+9I1pP6qTnK8oY9Qlw 6rMxEn3Z+d1PufJP9H/7Q/tC49mqREQ4f2wjlqLD7eoovzWG2RDyYPTELQXvAoGUJebY iL2uvMvRpYREsql0tHRzU6znsPkn5U75Mesv4= Received: by 10.210.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr7176689eba.119.1233780273899; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.20.0.5? (196-210-140-105-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.140.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm3279665gve.14.2009.02.04.12.44.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hal - what's the benefit of using it Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902042243.27272.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 5a555b38-8f8f-4d38-84e7-e39e725d48f2 X-Archives-Hash: 21c5473bb932482a8ea65202f35ba587 Please don't top post on this list. It's considered rude. You are talking about HAL, an abstract concept. The OP is talking about hal, a definite package - sys-apps/hal. Recent X.org uses it to autoconfigure input devices on startup On Wednesday 04 February 2009 18:34:28 Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote: > Um, you are using the HAL weather you want to or not, it's not really an > option! > > The HARDWARE ABSTRACTION LAYER with respect to good ol linux happens > to be your kernel and it's drivers. > > The bare metal registers within which all those bits are moved is > called the hardware; all those configuration files and source you > compile is considered the software, anything that creates the > transparency between the two is refereed to as the HAL (In windows 98 > it was a single DLL file), in Linux it's the source code and binaries > of the kernel and drivers, all modern computers regardless of low > level arch have a HAL. > > Regards, > Hazen. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, James wrote: > > Helmut Jarausch igpm.rwth-aachen.de> writes: > >> having had some problems with recent xorg version my question is > >> what are the benefits (if any) of building packages with the 'hal' > >> use flag (i.e. adding 'hal' to US='...' in /etc/make.conf) > > > > This link is short and reasonable. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_(software) > > > > > > Hardware Abstraction Layer is a buzz term that means > > many different things to many different hardware > > designers who need software to make their designs > > complete. > > > > > > hth, > > > > James -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com