From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUoYx-0000mj-CF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:41:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B16F9E06BD; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7484BE06BD for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so573971nfi.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:41:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=9zN5fqRyGpQBgy2BEYLaO9fhF04yr8C/QpQwVKpvi4w=; b=k11prJ+oQBM5YTlK2jq0/cm4p9EASpSXzAzc/hmJba4uaag2xFBgBzN+YN4Z6Kzmeb QGATicrlEm3OoU9W6gUc5evX4yEQkyC8PPSptbcwvWi3oa2v/MBF5gl0PszbXNEDxh4h f7FeoHOfbMoqjzZhe+v2nbwF64O6PKY4zuvqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=STuUtgSnRjgxGgPwlcmGFaffaPc7xAaEfWx61QSARYWkXzexRZ3JnPdRh/CO/aErVq /Zq70F2fYQfRCytv5yqXmRy41/lYvK0g771VuOGtgciqeDUbP/36itMpZQPJ3MUl5cJ+ Xnm1KYVX/JBRB09B2Hdx1In81IUIuKt9IYe3Y= Received: by 10.210.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr276312eba.112.1233780069887; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.20.0.5? (196-210-140-105-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.140.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm1050123gvf.24.2009.02.04.12.41.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh? Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:40:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200902041559.45008.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20090204165507.GD22980@revolver> In-Reply-To: <20090204165507.GD22980@revolver> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902042240.01008.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3de96e5a-4459-4a3f-b586-5ca6872df0a3 X-Archives-Hash: b7f95c50a37e15b82b9dc7077ec79a6f On Wednesday 04 February 2009 18:55:07 Momesso Andrea wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 03:59:44PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 15:31:26 Momesso Andrea wrote: > > > My question can be put like this: Do binary distro's per package > > > optimiziations override the benefit of having arch specific > > > optimiziations that gentoo allows? > > > > That can only be answered with valid benchmarks on paper in front of you. > > > > Have you performed valid benchmark tests? > > Nope, if I had there would have been no reason to ask... :) Then your question is nonsensical and is best answered as: mu As so many others have stated, the mythical performance benefits of gentoo are no longer applicable in the main. When i386 was the standard optimization things were different, but no longer. The major benefit of Gentoo to most users is USE, not CFLAGS -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com