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From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: libtool problem
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:40:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902042140.33320.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902042221.38749.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>

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Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 21:21:38 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Wednesday 04 February 2009 20:17:33 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 04:25:34 schrieb ABCD:
> > > The reason there wasn't a bump (IIRC) was that the ebuild never changed
> > > - only the eclass did.  If you emerged any version of GCC during the
> > > window where the eclass was broken, that version of GCC would have been
> > > broken.
> >
> > That also means that portage is broken. Whenever something changes where
> > other things depend on, those other things should be rebuilt. This
> > doesn't happen here.
>
> I disagree, that would cause many more spurious rebuilds than is needed if
> it were automated.

Why spurious? The package manager should be smart enough to tell the user: 
"Rebuild because of eclass change". Nothing spurious.

> Portage cannot tell how important or how deep a change
> is, that requires a human to look and see. So what is needed is a flag that
> portage recognizes as an instruction to do a revdep-rebuild-style search
> and find everything using a specific changed file, and rebuild those. The
> flag is set under dev control.

Not dev, user. Something equivalent to --newuse.

> Blindly doing what you suggest leads to this:
>
> appA depends on libB.

No. Sorry if this was misleading. I was only referring to dependencies between 
ebuilds and eclasses.

Library interdependencies are handled just fine by portage/revdep-rebuild.

> Therefore, a simple elog entry is a valid handling and fully compliant with
> the principle of The Simplest Thing That Could Possibly Work.

Elog entries are overlooked too often.

Bye...

	Dirk

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-04 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-03 12:15 [gentoo-user] libtool problem Helmut Jarausch
2009-02-03 12:18 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-02-03 12:24   ` Helmut Jarausch
2009-02-03 12:27     ` Justin
2009-02-03 12:47     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-03 12:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-03 13:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-03 15:03   ` Helmut Jarausch
2009-02-03 15:23     ` Mike Kazantsev
2009-02-03 15:36       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04  3:25         ` [gentoo-user] " ABCD
2009-02-04  9:50           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 18:17           ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-02-04 20:21             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 20:40               ` Dirk Heinrichs [this message]
2009-02-04 21:07                 ` Alan McKinnon

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