[gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Pariksheet Nanda]

> Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:
> Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?

Nexuiz seems petty blood free...
But I have integrated graphics, so I haven't been able to turn the
effects all the way on (or use a resolution > 800x600)

Pariksheet

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Tom]

I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)

I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
derived from that engine also has the option!?

Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
> I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
> And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)
>
> I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
> derived from that engine also has the option!?
>
> Tom


Ok, I'll clarify further: without "kill them!" :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
>> I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
>> And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)
>>
>> I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
>> derived from that engine also has the option!?
>>
>> Tom
> 
> 
> Ok, I'll clarify further: without "kill them!" :-)

Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS 
Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Kenneth Prugh]

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:20:24 +0300
Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
> > I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
> > And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)
> >
> > I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
> > derived from that engine also has the option!?
> >
> > Tom
> 
> 
> Ok, I'll clarify further: without "kill them!" :-)
> 

It may not be an fps, but I recommend checking out
games-strategy/hedgewars  if you haven't already.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
> Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)

Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to "3D 
reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for 
little boy, are not they?

[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
>> Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)
> 
> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to "3D 
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for 
> little boy, are not they?

The only ones I can think of are for Windows, unfortunately. :P

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:26:58 Kenneth Prugh wrote:

>
> It may not be an fps, but I recommend checking out
> games-strategy/hedgewars  if you haven't already.


Thanks, is wgetting just now.

[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
>> Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and kills ;)
> 
> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to "3D 
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for 
> little boy, are not they?

Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend "World of 
Goo".  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version available.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related
> > to "3D reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed,
> > used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D")
> > games for little boy, are not they?
>
> Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend "World of
> Goo".  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
> available.

My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the 
portage tree :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> > Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related
>> > to "3D reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed,
>> > used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D")
>> > games for little boy, are not they?
>>
>> Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend "World of
>> Goo".  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
>> available.
>
> My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the
> portage tree :-)

You probably know them already but tuxracer, frozen-bubble,
neverball/neverputt are fun 3D games for adults or kids and don't have
any violence or killing :) I dunno what is good for a 7-year-old kid
but I think any of those should be easy to learn. lincity is not 3D if
I remember but it's also fun no-violence game. Maybe it's too advanced
for a kid of that age.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Andrew Gaydenko]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 09:08:31 Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:15:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> > Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is
> >> > related to "3D reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are
> >> > needed, used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty
> >> > ("rich 3D") games for little boy, are not they?
> >>
> >> Also, if commercial games are OK for you, I would recommend "World of
> >> Goo".  It's not 3D, but lots of fun.  It has a Linux beta version
> >> available.
> >
> > My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the
> > portage tree :-)
>
> You probably know them already but tuxracer, frozen-bubble,
> neverball/neverputt are fun 3D games for adults or kids and don't have
> any violence or killing :) I dunno what is good for a 7-year-old kid
> but I think any of those should be easy to learn. lincity is not 3D if
> I remember but it's also fun no-violence game. Maybe it's too advanced
> for a kid of that age.

Paul,

Thanks for the list! - will dig in. All the names are new to me as far as I 
don't play games.


Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Dirk Uys]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:
>
> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to "3D
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for
> little boy, are not they?

I would recommend Tower Toppler (http://toppler.sourceforge.net/) and
Kiki The Nanobot (http://kiki.sourceforge.net/). I think both of them
are in the portage tree. I enjoyed playing them alot and according to
some the differences between me and a 7 year old is not that big :)

Regards
Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Stroller]

On 3 Feb 2009, at 03:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> Difficult to find an FPS without violence.  Even in Consoles and MS
>> Windows.  Why?  FPS = First Person *Shooter*.  Shooter = guns and  
>> kills ;)

You're making me wish for a FPS in which Tux the penguin throws  
snowballs at BSD gremlins.

> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is  
> related to "3D
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used,  
> told
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games  
> for
> little boy, are not they?

I would like to second Tux Racer, which has already been mentioned.

If it's *games* you're after then secondhand Gamecubes are very cheap  
around here these days, as are disks for them, many of which are very  
friendly indeed to younger kids. Think of Mario Brothers, Harvest Moon  
and other such colourful worlds.

But as a responsible parent you probably hope that games on the  
computer will lead to more serious uses of the PC. ;|

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 06:20 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:00:40 Tom wrote:
> > I played Wolfenstein 3D as I was 7, and Doom when I was 8.
> > And I'm in no way disturbed...I think ;)
> >
> > I think you can turn off gore in quake 3,so maybe anything (free)
> > derived from that engine also has the option!?
> >
> > Tom
> 
> 
> Ok, I'll clarify further: without "kill them!" :-)

Ok, here's the thing I don't understand: you don't want your son to
actually see that when you shoot a person (or animal) that it bleeds,
because, I presume, you tend to find something gory about that.  But the
act of walking around rooms shooting everything that moves -- that's not
gory for some reason?

It seems to me that the act of bleeding (we all do it) is in fact
natural, and shouldn't be that disturbing compared to the acts of
violence committed in FPS to begin with.  This is analogous to the
ratings board giving a "PG-13" rating to a movie with excessing drug use
but an "R" (or worse) rating to a film portraying sex, a natural act.
As if to say, "Yeah, shooting up is pretty bad but, hey, at least
they're not fucking!".

Anyway, if I'm ever unfortunate to find myself on the wrong end of a gun
I hope it's by someone who is aware that if/when he pulls the trigger I
will bleed as opposed to, say, a person who thinks I'll simply fall down
and, after a few seconds, disappear.

Note I'm not disputing the game, just the "logic".

-a

You can have your soap box back now.

[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[James]

Andrew Gaydenko <a <at> gaydenko.com> writes:

> 
> Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?

BZflag.org is very cool 3D tank game, where you play
others across the net. No blood and cursing by players
get's you booted.


My kids all love it!


hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[Mike Kazantsev]

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:34:02 +0300
Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:

> My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the 
> portage tree :-)

Judging by network/domain whois and your name, I assume you're from the
same country as I am, and paypal works perfectly for me with both visa
and mastercard. You don't even have to register for a single (not too
large) transaction.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

[pk]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to "3D 
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told 
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for 
> little boy, are not they?

Well, if you can lower your requirements a little to include 2D games
then there are quite a few interesting games:

2D:
1. Freedroid
2. Frozen Bubble
3. Rocks n' diamonds
4. XMoto
... of course there are a few that contain "indirect" violence like
freeciv, battle for wesnoth, etc.

3D:
5. Neverball / Neverputt
6. Planetpenguin racer

... I'm sure there are more examples out there...

Best regards

Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 00:26:19 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?

Have a look at "worldofpadman", not seen any blood in there :)
You fight with paintguns and such like and it all looks cartoony.

http://worldofpadman.com/

--
Joost

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[James Ausmus]

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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, pk <peterk2@coolmail.se> wrote:

> Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>
> > Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related
> to "3D
> > reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told
> > about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for
> > little boy, are not they?
>
> Well, if you can lower your requirements a little to include 2D games
> then there are quite a few interesting games:
>
> 2D:
> 1. Freedroid
> 2. Frozen Bubble
> 3. Rocks n' diamonds
> 4. XMoto
> ... of course there are a few that contain "indirect" violence like
> freeciv, battle for wesnoth, etc.
>

Freecol is a great game that is in Portage and can provide for hours of
entertainment - it's a Java-based clone of Sid Meier's Colonization, one of
the best turn-based strategy games ever. Might be a little much for a 7-year
old, but might not be, either. ;)

-James

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[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 04 Februar 2009, James Ausmus wrote:

>
> Freecol is a great game that is in Portage and can provide for hours of
> entertainment - it's a Java-based clone of Sid Meier's Colonization, one of
> the best turn-based strategy games ever. Might be a little much for a
> 7-year old, but might not be, either. ;)

it is also very buggy - which makes it pretty frustrating for everybody 
without tons of good will. Which makes it unsuitable for children.