From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMtjh-0000Ou-Qf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E83EEE080D; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC970E080D for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4205864234 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.490, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8604Rxopx8xl for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2764604 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LMtjR-0006ws-Mg for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:42 +0000 Received: from 206.40.238.7 ([206.40.238.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:41 +0000 Received: from boxcars by 206.40.238.7 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:35:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C2=BBQ=C2=AB?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: 'emerge -e world' question Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:26:38 -0600 Organization: none Message-ID: <20090113182638.6980bcfd@prezmyra.remarqs.net> References: <58965d8a0901130744p3d724207i9b911c9c3559d61d@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0901130747g537f7ff2m393c03b804021785@mail.gmail.com> <496D29D6.7030004@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.40.238.7 X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.6.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 1057ac80-ab0f-4a83-81dd-ae5dc95f206e X-Archives-Hash: 8c944e0fd5e1d4bece8a2b121eecc13a In <496D29D6.7030004@gmail.com>, "b.n." wrote: > Paul Hartman ha scritto: > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Paul Hartman > > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I normally do "emerge -uDvN @world" (or in other words "emerge > >> --update --deep --verbose --newuse @world"). Right now, it tells me > >> this: > >> > >> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB > >> > >> I also --depclean on a regular basis to remove any unneeded > >> packages. Right now, it tells me this: > >> > >> No packages selected for removal by depclean > >> > >> Based on those two commands, I'm led to believe I have a fully > >> updated system. So, then, I am curious why when I do "emerge -e > >> @world" it tells me this: > >> > >> Total: 1432 packages (9 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 14 new, 1407 > >> reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 76,235 kB > >> > >> How is that possible? Where do those upgrades, downgrades and new > >> packages come from? What is missing from my traditional "-uDvN" > >> command that is causing me to miss some of those updates? > > > > Before anyone responds I will throw in my theory :) > >=20 > > I'm using ~amd64 and I suppose perhaps the ebuilds have changed > > since I installed them, but have not had a version increase. >=20 > It's 4 years I'm using Gentoo and I can still be surprised by it. :) > This doesn't look right. Why do devs upgrade ebuilds and do not > increase the -rX versioning? The policy is that they should increment the revision if the ebuild has changed enough that users of the package would want to recompile. There are some example cases mentioned in the policy, but largely it's a judgment call on the part of the maintainer. . --=20 =C2=BBQ=C2=AB Kleeneness is next to G=C3=B6delness.