From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L55ZR-00055B-L0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:35:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB6B4E05C8; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f20.google.com (mail-qy0-f20.google.com [209.85.221.20]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B882FE05C8 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so421901qyk.10 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:35:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=jg4Aeyj6w4s26rMgAZry8XCy1JTnbOSX0hk/tvnzHRg=; b=MHe0O6jCmgUlGPKIdHzQI/aJWsoJgPzJ4iCHc/1y3io+wrf0H2c43eiaBQzZLvngJh UhO8sJKmxn1eOCLzpmNByPG+zGRCDcJ8/5aWguilOVnA7CueEjxLqsU5fa8FkG9er/Yz xVxht/KPJZZiYalk18Td/GB9hH6v5+rJidKRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=puaW7i756UosoncBy9IbGkn2II1egl8/TfdRKnJGyfdPemCdYt8hwANbm4itFufj8m KNSg6L5M/1OKmKTfHAH3h9n8hatYBnr6FkgCmyuUJR/D+3De8MDSQUmSaGU/sy6nh5dj YSxrIbo1CLTwkiBtDhrclcRLH9JYqvZr3lcLY= Received: by 10.214.215.19 with SMTP id n19mr4424176qag.59.1227648942672; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.6? (dsl-243-253-47.telkomadsl.co.za [41.243.253.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm13338841yxj.7.2008.11.25.13.35.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:35:41 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:35:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <1227479490.26615.47.camel@rattus> <492c6aef.uN1RRcHNp8dUe+Nc%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <492c6aef.uN1RRcHNp8dUe+Nc%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811252335.28779.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: f848be54-c624-4236-a674-c379c84d0a51 X-Archives-Hash: af7c56fbab582d51d03ae05613e01a0a On Tuesday 25 November 2008 23:15:27 Joerg Schilling wrote: > James wrote: > > Backups. > > > > get a usb stick and manually copy your stuff to it, periodically. > > Where do you get these 1 TB USB sticks? To be fair, he was responding to a parent that asked about backing up 3.8G of data, so USB sticks are not unfeasible. Until they get lost that is. Personally, I'm very interested in seeing where Intel go with their new SSDs. The reason is that I'm getting sick and tired of having to explain and justify why the laws of physics prevent my girlfriend from being able to backup her 5T banking warehouse on the schedule the law of the country would like her to. There's a solution, but it's hackish and ugly and involves extremely careful management of LVM snapshots. This is simply way too much admin effort for what should really be a simple incremental backup process. And let's not even get into what restores involve Let's face it, disks only spin so fast and Moore's law does not apply to disk and tape speed. Vastly improving the first half - drive speed - is a huge first step in the right direction. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com