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From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] filesystems
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:07:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811241207.55699.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1227522626.26615.52.camel@rattus>

Am Montag, 24. November 2008 11:30:25 schrieb William Kenworthy:

> By transient storage I mean that the data is duplicated across across
> physical storage spaces so that if a machine goes down, the data is
> still available.

OK, thanks.

> I thought Andrews FS did that, but didnt see when
> looking at it yesterday.

Yes, (Open-)AFS indeed does this. However, this replication is read-only. This 
means you can read the data as long as at least one replica is available and 
write the data as long as the original (the read-write) volume is available. 
There are also some other things to keep in mind:

* AFS' primary tool for access control are its access control lists (ACL), but 
those are not posix, but AFS ACLs and they apply at the directory (not file) 
level. However, that's usually sufficient, because one can work with subdirs 
and symbolic links to implement more restrictive access for some files in the 
same directory.

* ACLs can also contain host names.

* If a volume is replicated, the client always prefers the read-only path 
(read-write volumes are usually accessed via /afs/.mycell.mydomain, while 
read-only volumes (if they exist) are accessed via /afs/mycell.mydomain). So 
if you want to modify a file you must explicitely open it via the rw-path.

* Replication doesn't happen automatically, needs an explicit command.

* Support for backup volumes is also there (comes with its own backup system).

* Can move volumes to different servers while online.

* Data is cached on the client.

* You'll need Kerberos 5.

If you have further questions, feel free to ask.

Bye...

	Dirk



  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-24 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-23 22:31 [gentoo-user] filesystems William Kenworthy
2008-11-23 23:00 ` [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems Kobboi
2008-11-24  1:06   ` Dale
2008-11-24  1:42     ` W.Kenworthy
2008-11-24  5:58       ` Roy Wright
2008-11-24 15:18         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-24  6:28     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24  6:38       ` Dale
2008-11-24 10:53         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 11:07           ` Dale
2008-11-24 12:17             ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 12:49               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 12:59                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 13:50                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 14:56                     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 15:41                     ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-24 21:47                       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2008-11-24 22:05                         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 22:15                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 22:56                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 23:41                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25  0:22                               ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2008-11-25 10:47                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 11:42                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 11:53                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25  9:15                           ` [gentoo-user] " Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25  9:07                         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 10:02                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 21:09                     ` Dale
2008-11-25  7:34                       ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-25  8:27                         ` Dale
2008-11-25 17:57                           ` Paul Hartman
2008-11-25 18:37                             ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 18:57                               ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 19:26                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-26  9:29                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:22                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 19:07                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 19:24                                 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 19:40                                   ` KH
2008-11-25 20:02                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 20:19                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 20:58                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 21:11                                       ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-11-25 21:15                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 21:35                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 21:43                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 22:06                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 22:11                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:16                                             ` Stroller
2008-11-26 19:03                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-27  9:18                                                 ` Anthony Metcalf
2008-11-26  0:00                                           ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-26 14:26                                             ` Florian Philipp
2008-11-27 12:12                                               ` Daniel Troeder
2008-11-27 18:22                                                 ` KH
2008-11-29  5:51                                                 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-12-01  3:38                                                   ` Shawn Haggett
2008-12-01  8:58                                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-12-09 10:56                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2008-11-29  6:01                                               ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-29 11:30                                                 ` Florian Philipp
2008-11-26  9:18                                           ` Stroller
2008-11-25 20:40                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 22:07                                   ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-26  0:22                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-26  0:45                                       ` W.Kenworthy
2008-11-26  3:41                                         ` Philip Webb
2008-11-26  5:05                                         ` Dale
2008-11-26 14:06                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2008-11-26 18:50                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-26 19:18                                             ` Dale
2008-11-26  1:02                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-26 10:41                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:24                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 20:34                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 19:01                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 20:27                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-26  3:59                             ` Dale
2008-11-24  6:30 ` [gentoo-user] filesystems Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 10:30   ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 11:07     ` Dirk Heinrichs [this message]
2008-11-24 12:03       ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:15         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 12:35       ` Stroller
2008-11-24 12:44         ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:50           ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 13:13             ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:46         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 15:12       ` Dirk Heinrichs

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