From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L2KC9-0005Xv-Li for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:36:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00904E04D7; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4818E04D7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so117612ugs.39 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:36:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=lIk62nRe2EeYVqTGjj3t3HaBlAGMRydYNx5iLAfgahU=; b=Q+vyWj9ArRjFWJWTGpiOtegjKAw1wkKzQtwRIGa3uNg/XJBf7eGmq/j6pQVfuQT742 zbv+Buz4yXDcEUx/phvuvLmGRlm1YUTRydi4ny4LCVyLkbvgYKOT4vgxsL66obng3XV2 hEF3J8l6lDGkm/wnrKNwqI+YuTDiE8GZFzZgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=cJHQvjHq0lH6vW2cIPA3+kuG/bpi4SreYBSvZz13kXFTKx/B21rYVHj+fNjWo5ycbs l5wkDNPbNyzQp9ErAJ/wH3IgHU6LlpMB0N6vfwjxojYY2a9S5J1l9xmobXmSghBlHP0m vZvpaNaIqZN/S/nJQ19wBSR+GO1gLi5sQ+zzM= Received: by 10.66.238.16 with SMTP id l16mr1885835ugh.38.1226990175505; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.af.didata.local (dustpuppy.is.co.za [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm5812529ugf.26.2008.11.17.22.36.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of all kde components Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:36:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <87myfx8st1.fsf@newsguy.com> In-Reply-To: <87myfx8st1.fsf@newsguy.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811180836.09815.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 022c2978-4cca-4f22-af33-b7dfad6ee18a X-Archives-Hash: eda5125f78c9e2ab44699ac53d34b262 On Tuesday 18 November 2008 08:14:02 Harry Putnam wrote: > I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo > compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost > jacking around with kde during upgrades. > > But also I'd forgotten what the oldtime linux desktops were like. > fvwm was the main one in use when I started circa 1997. > > I see blackbox is even a bit more stark... but since I am mainly > command line oriented it doesn't present a problem. > > But cutting to the chase here, I'm getting rid of KDE but I see > kde-base/arts shows lots of dependencies. Even now that I've changed > my USE flag `kde' to `-kde' remove arts and any other kde-related flags from USE and package.use. Unmerge arts, continue arts is only used in kde, it's a piece of utter trash and totally not needed - everything it ever did can now be done by alsa. > qdepends -C kde-base/arts|awk '{gsub(/ /,"\n");print}' > kde-base/arts-3.5.10: > x11-libs/qt:3 > > >=dev-libs/glib-2 > > media-libs/alsa-lib > media-libs/libogg > media-libs/libvorbis > media-sound/esound > media-libs/libmad > media-libs/audiofile > dev-util/pkgconfig > =sys-devel/automake-1.9* > > >=sys-devel/autoconf-2.61 > > sys-devel/libtool > sys-devel/make > dev-util/pkgconfig > dev-lang/perl > > I'm pretty sure at least some of this doesn't actually depend on > kde-base/arts but not quite sure what to make of the output. You have it the wrong way round. Those packages do not depend on arts, instead arts depends on them. They are needed to either run or to build arts. Don't worry about it. portage knows how to build anything that's missing after you are done cleaning up -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com