From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L0NYz-0004xH-5P for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:47:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F03CE0588; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.188]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99C4E0588 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so179709gve.39 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:47:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=Uo/U/y64R+z9VCOzdW2x7CGdBJg8H7CwHgI/Rh5v1DE=; b=JK/tDr7pR90NRVhksOW2TjCfDETGvnJGVfhq/ram8Y8QifzptyocmbagpU2u5z5tOh Lk0zGk23W7qtqZnrcL/k4BXR43Nbg/Kto4PEtq0sy+H3NcOF5skJdGbWBqLUTQQywf4q wI/lkbC8GYyqrkj4RMbTPQP1LpyI79QBGAZ60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=SwU9gBz6hxMxnTeRzboT+gumDkyPYfECpBbLp5HAgvvSmmq9Jvzc95o5j42I9skK7y xnYGABk4tVxmXv6pG8KoTIlSbB176qAPgX76UMv2GfRP+Kaxr1Ch5yeaTHbeV9ZZ7VRq Q+sx0LAFYS6sWf2v0yChaUjlw03JuLOjUplmQ= Received: by 10.103.52.7 with SMTP id e7mr5577849muk.52.1226526465791; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.5? (dsl-243-208-133.telkomadsl.co.za [41.243.208.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t10sm17141375muh.16.2008.11.12.13.47.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:47:44 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ? Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:47:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200811120931.44489.dmitry@athabascau.ca> <200811121331.52699.dmitry@athabascau.ca> <200811122211.36029.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> In-Reply-To: <200811122211.36029.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-01=_170GJ/LdikFCg69" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811122347.33428.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 1b39c3a2-a816-440d-9b2b-67966b018202 X-Archives-Hash: e93cfcb424cbd8c203d0b9c979b31c3f --Boundary-01=_170GJ/LdikFCg69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday 12 November 2008 23:11:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good > thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by > definition? Why is FHS stupid? I haven't read it fully since 2006 but at the time it was completely sensible to me. Stuff ends up in predictable sensible places that you can rely on. The one thing it did not mention explicitly was funky things like gentoo SLOTs or /usr/kde/ But, FHS itself already tells you how to do it conceptually: just follow the lead of /usr/local/ and do the exact same thing somwhere else. The most impressive part was laying out exactly what kind of things you should expect to find in /usr /usr/local /opt ~/bin -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com --Boundary-01=_170GJ/LdikFCg69 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On Wednesday 12 November 2008 23:11:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good

> thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by

> definition?

Why is FHS stupid? I haven't read it fully since 2006 but at the time it was completely sensible to me. Stuff ends up in predictable sensible places that you can rely on.

The one thing it did not mention explicitly was funky things like gentoo SLOTs or /usr/kde/

But, FHS itself already tells you how to do it conceptually: just follow the lead of /usr/local/ and do the exact same thing somwhere else.

The most impressive part was laying out exactly what kind of things you should expect to find in

/usr

/usr/local

/opt

~/bin

--

alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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