From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvhEW-0004iJ-C7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:47:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9767EE03D8; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B83E03D8 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9UNlE9W027780; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:47:14 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.30]) by mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9UNlEkq005608; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:47:14 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.7] (adsl32-184.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.159.184]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9UNlCqM019592; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:47:13 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=markaki2002@yahoo.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=markaki2002@yahoo.gr; sender-id=neutral From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:46:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: "Andrey Vul" References: In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810310146.19875.markaki2002@yahoo.gr> X-Archives-Salt: b3d4e85e-7af8-4215-8ef2-c1cb30b474f6 X-Archives-Hash: 4687b4a5d3864fd3a3d89c9f0341221b On Friday 31 October 2008 01:04:42 Andrey Vul wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Pupino wrote: > > Hi all, > > i was used to intall alsa-lib and co. and use tools like alsamixer to > > manage the audio on my gentoo; now i've tryied to switch to the > > in-kernel way. > > I've built the relevant part into the kernel, no module, but now i'm > > stuck. If i try to emerge alsa-utils (wich has alsamixer) it pulls in > > also alsa-lib, alsa-header, etc... > > is this the correct behaviour? i tought i'll get rid of those > > packages(-header, -lib) switching to the in-kernel drivers. > > alsa-lib and alsa-headers are unrelated to the kernel modules. > alsa-lib and alsa-headers are userspace. > If you ditch alsa-lib and go full kernel: > Will you have sound? Maybe. > Will alsa-using apps be able to use it? Absolutely not. They need alsa-li= b. =46rom my experience i would recommend to use alsa-in-kernel + alsa-libs += =20 alsa-headers + alsa-utils + alsa-tools This combination works perfect on my 3 gentoo machines