From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KuxG2-0003lG-CU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:41:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ED07E04D2; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73118E04D2 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so277261ana.47 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:41:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=u2e5Wr/RxjGn/PV0jtcx1GBH7JjdxJrihgUgE4GjMD0=; b=MFyU5S8Oq6m2Feg5sMiS8kMxivKpYZ0IfnF8l1m3ljC0aC+Qodb2HyI0+kCBtf6RMj JUlpSCJksiRuxJ9EMrdfo16zgP+a8CikpKdvsTetepVFkjbc9+5grEbo4+g9oTKDwDOQ slK2hO/X3MFcyZrQpu+T3t4HiN6nVX/uN2tdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=sy3A1f1DUkDALzJl77eou8YXwe+0ZuX9SerNmXuYU+ZVJOSCo+8rEeDva5FGzNJ3bd ONMUYysOIiI3/OUf5Dy0qvtgUKksV/sYTkVOtaSqrm7FGVMHhCBjcpw3CzF3MgTuxjL2 4DR5f7prCQyp/dNo/nS+AzFfUqNwLxqQdmjSY= Received: by 10.65.241.20 with SMTP id t20mr39047qbr.62.1225233706618; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.6? (dsl-243-211-235.telkomadsl.co.za [41.243.211.235]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm3920735qba.3.2008.10.28.15.41.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:41:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810282356.25430.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <38af3d670810281517k186dfeacg80d7288c34d52043@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <38af3d670810281517k186dfeacg80d7288c34d52043@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810290041.39256.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 82b8ae87-99dc-4fc7-9273-7391bd9330b2 X-Archives-Hash: 752303357c3912908c6ba6a2fcaecc9e On Wednesday 29 October 2008 00:17:50 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > * Before you ask "what, you don't know C?", A sysadmin doesn't need to know C. It helps to be able to read it of course. A sysadmin ought to know grep, sed and awk rather well and be quite fluent in either perl or python, simply becuase those are tools they will use every day > I mean to really know C, > that is, read a rigorous book such as "C: A Reference Manual" and be > able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking > of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when you cast a > float to an int, and the float is too big to fit into the int? Did oyu try it yourself and see? > ** I know basic Python, but I think Python is nice enough for a person > to *really* know it. Agreed. It's a very nice language and has some nice side effects on your thinking. Like realising that the "new" keyword is an OOP language is always completely redundant. Or how many brain cycles you use parsing { and }. Many people like to bitch about Python's enforcement of coding style. But we all agree that indentation is good. We disagree sometimes how exactly to do it. Python assumes that you start using the style you like and simply enforces that you carry on with it (which you were going to do anyway....) That appeals to me - cut to the chase, toss out the irrelevant crap and concentrate on what's left - the important stuff -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com