[gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[zhangweiwu]

Dear all

Life without Kompozer is a pain to me. Nvu has some historical bug that
was killed in kompozer. My daily work require wysiwyg HTML editor a lot
because my work involve working with web pages with a lot of tables of
tabular data (you can hardly work efficiently with HTML tables with raw
HTML editor, e.g. for the work of merging table cells).

However after years and years kompozer is still not available in Gentoo
Linux. I start to have difficulty working with my colleagues who use
Ubuntu or SuSE who already replaced nvu with kompozer. Our SVN commit
message start to show stupid change to CSS back and forth because
different formatting of CSS by two editors.

What can I do besides waiting forever for compozer to be added to the
portage or complaining in this list?

P. S. I am also willing to start tutorial and mange to contribute
ebuilds to gentoo project, e.g. for ThinkingRock, for Pentaho Report
(these software didn't make their way into Gentoo Portage perhaps
because nobody make ebuilds for them). but I really hesitate because I
can see in bugzilla someone did ebuilds for kompozer years ago and never
accepted (so does ebuilds for amaya, for gpass etc), so if I contribute
ebuilds: but knowing it can be not accepted for years, I lost the
motivation.

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Graham Murray]

zhangweiwu@realss.com writes:

> What can I do besides waiting forever for compozer to be added to the
> portage or complaining in this list?

You can create an ebuild for it in an overlay, eg /usr/portage/local.

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:52:04 +0800, zhangweiwu@realss.com wrote:

> However after years and years kompozer is still not available in Gentoo
> Linux.

If you'd searched Bugzilla you'd have found an ebuild for the latest
release, which appears to be in the Arcon overlay too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Erik Hahn]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:52:04PM +0800, zhangweiwu@realss.com wrote:
> What can I do besides waiting forever for compozer to be added to the
> portage or complaining in this list?
> 
> P. S. I am also willing to start tutorial and mange to contribute
> ebuilds to gentoo project, e.g. for ThinkingRock, for Pentaho Report
> (these software didn't make their way into Gentoo Portage perhaps
> because nobody make ebuilds for them). but I really hesitate because I
> can see in bugzilla someone did ebuilds for kompozer years ago and never
> accepted (so does ebuilds for amaya, for gpass etc), so if I contribute
> ebuilds: but knowing it can be not accepted for years, I lost the
> motivation.

There is an ebuild for Kompzer in arcon overlay. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Gildor Oronar <gildororonar@mail-on.us>]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:52:04 +0800, zhangweiwu@realss.com wrote:
> 
>> However after years and years kompozer is still not available in Gentoo
>> Linux.
> 
> If you'd searched Bugzilla you'd have found an ebuild for the latest
> release, which appears to be in the Arcon overlay too.

maybe I am stupid but
#layman -L
output doesn't contain the word 'arcon' or 'Acron'. A google with
keyword 'Arcon overlay' doesn't find instruction how to install it
neither. Could it be related to my platform (PowerPC)?

A link with information related to how to install 'arcon overlay' would
be very helpful. Thanks in advance.

I am fine with installing an overlay, but I guess if the ebuild is in
the portage then it's available for more people. For me now is only how
to get overlay working.

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 10:37:48 schrieb Gildor Oronar 
<gildororonar@mail-on.us>:

> maybe I am stupid but
> #layman -L
> output doesn't contain the word 'arcon' or 'Acron'.

# playman -l|grep -i arcon
                  arcon | svn://svn.ospdev.net/svnroot/arcon/trunk/arcon-
overlay

HTH...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Norberto Bensa]

On Saturday October 25 2008 09:21:41 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> # playman -l|grep -i arcon
>                   arcon | svn://svn.ospdev.net/svnroot/arcon/trunk/arcon-
> overlay


WTF is playman!?

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Matthias Krebs]

On Saturday 25 October 2008 10:37:48 Gildor Oronar <gildororonar@mail-on.us> 
wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:52:04 +0800, zhangweiwu@realss.com wrote:
> >> However after years and years kompozer is still not available in Gentoo
> >> Linux.
> >
> > If you'd searched Bugzilla you'd have found an ebuild for the latest
> > release, which appears to be in the Arcon overlay too.
>
> maybe I am stupid but
> #layman -L
> output doesn't contain the word 'arcon' or 'Acron'. A google with
> keyword 'Arcon overlay' doesn't find instruction how to install it
> neither. Could it be related to my platform (PowerPC)?
>
> A link with information related to how to install 'arcon overlay' would
> be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
>
> I am fine with installing an overlay, but I guess if the ebuild is in
> the portage then it's available for more people. For me now is only how
> to get overlay working.
You have to build layman with subversion use flag to see svn repositories. 
Same goes for git.

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 15:32:50 schrieb Norberto Bensa:
> On Saturday October 25 2008 09:21:41 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > # playman -l|grep -i arcon
> >                   arcon | svn://svn.ospdev.net/svnroot/arcon/trunk/arcon-
> > overlay
>
> WTF is playman!?

The paludis equivalent of layman.

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Norberto Bensa]

On Saturday October 25 2008 12:21:01 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 15:32:50 schrieb Norberto Bensa:
> >
> > WTF is playman!?
>
> The paludis equivalent of layman.

If development has moved to paludis, I guess I'll have to move to it.

How much trouble do you think I'll face migrating to paludis?

Thanks,
Norberto

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 22:41:09 schrieb Norberto Bensa:

> How much trouble do you think I'll face migrating to paludis?

Zero. Just follow the migration guide.

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2008 11:27:49 schrieb Erik Hahn:

> The only thing paludis was necessary for was the kde 4 overlay.

Hmm, I thought this has already been identified as fairy tale some weeks ago.

> However, it's worth a try even if you don't necessarily need it. Paludis
> can use portage's configuration files so you can switch back if you
> don't like it.

Yep. But most likely you wont ;)

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Zhang Weiwu]

Matthias Krebs wrote:
> On Saturday 25 October 2008 10:37:48 Gildor Oronar <gildororonar@mail-on.us> 
> wrote:
>   
>> maybe I am stupid but
>> #layman -L
>> output doesn't contain the word 'arcon' or 'Acron'. A google with
>> keyword 'Arcon overlay' doesn't find instruction how to install it
>> neither. Could it be related to my platform (PowerPC)?
>>
>> A link with information related to how to install 'arcon overlay' would
>> be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> I am fine with installing an overlay, but I guess if the ebuild is in
>> the portage then it's available for more people. For me now is only how
>> to get overlay working.
>>     
> You have to build layman with subversion use flag to see svn repositories. 
> Same goes for git.
>   
Hi  it seems the layman package does not have 'subversion' use flag:

zhangweiwu@esmeralda:~$ sudo emerge -pv layman

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-portage/layman-1.1.1  USE="-test" 0 kB 

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB


And because I can see a lot other subversion overlays it seems I do can
access subversion overlays. As of 'Arcon overlay' I do not know how to
look up whether it's git or subversion overlay (except using google
which didn't provide the answer this time).

Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Erik Hahn]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 06:41:09PM -0200, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> On Saturday October 25 2008 12:21:01 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 15:32:50 schrieb Norberto Bensa:
> > >
> > > WTF is playman!?
> >
> > The paludis equivalent of layman.
> 
> If development has moved to paludis, I guess I'll have to move to it.

You don't, portage is still developed and Gentoo's main package manager.
The only thing paludis was necessary for was the kde 4 overlay.

However, it's worth a try even if you don't necessarily need it. Paludis
can use portage's configuration files so you can switch back if you
don't like it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 06:10:56PM +0800, Penguin Lover Zhang Weiwu squawked:
> Hi  it seems the layman package does not have 'subversion' use flag:
> 
> zhangweiwu@esmeralda:~$ sudo emerge -pv layman
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] app-portage/layman-1.1.1  USE="-test" 0 kB 

Try the 1.2.0 version in ~

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Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 26 October 2008 11:33:11 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2008 11:27:49 schrieb Erik Hahn:
> > The only thing paludis was necessary for was the kde 4 overlay.
>
> Hmm, I thought this has already been identified as fairy tale some weeks
> ago.

For those who wonder what this is all about, there were not one, but two, 
development overlays for kde4. One used nifty new features in paludis to test 
out nifty new features for building overlays and apparently the developers 
were impressed with the nifty new results. IIRC it was Bo that said so 
publicly, he was a very frequent poster here till a few months ago.

The other overlay used the old traditional features in portage.

I've run almost every version of kde-4, and I've never used paludis. I believe 
those nifty new features (sets) have been incorporated into portage so now 
everyone can benefit.

Bottom line: Dirk is right. You don't *need* paludis. You use if if you *want* 
it.



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