[gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Andrew Gaydenko]

No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install 
Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but 
the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup 
connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal 
net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are 
no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird 
and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps 
set for beginning, + booting to level 5).

Suggestions?

P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse 
or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT.


Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Erik Hahn]

I think Suse would be suitable. AFAIK they have a updates-only policy
(you might even be able to choose only to use security updates but I'm
not sure - I used it only a short time) and use delta packages.

	-Erik

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Philip Webb]

080926 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> I want to install Linux to my friend's PC.
> I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is
> that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only.

Mandriva is what I used before Gentoo (2000-3)
& it seems to remain the best all-purpose binary distro.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Anthony Metcalf]

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Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install 
> Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but 
> the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup 
> connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal 
> net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are 
> no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird 
> and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps 
> set for beginning, + booting to level 5).
>
> Suggestions?
>
> P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse 
> or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT.
>
>
> Andrew
>
>   
Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.....If you can
do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
should cover you for the updates....

I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
binaries to download too :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Steven Lembark]

> Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.....If you can
> do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
> should cover you for the updates....
> 
> I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
> binaries to download too :)

If you can download the runtime image
+ portage beforehand onto a thumb drive
or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even
all that net hungry.

You might find that Damn Small Linux is,
well, damn small and doesn't take that
much bandwidth to download.

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Workhorse Computing                                 Woodhaven, NY, 11421
lembark@wrkhors.com                                      +1 888 359 3508

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Friday 26 September 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install
> Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but
> the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup
> connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal
> net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are
> no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird
> and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps
> set for beginning, + booting to level 5).
>
> Suggestions?

opensuse or slackware

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[jaeyoung lee]

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On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Steven Lembark <lembark@wrkhors.com> wrote:

>
> Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.....If you can
>> do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
>> should cover you for the updates....
>>
>> I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
>> binaries to download too :)
>>
>
> If you can download the runtime image
> + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive
> or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even
> all that net hungry.
>
> You might find that Damn Small Linux is,
> well, damn small and doesn't take that
> much bandwidth to download.
>
> --
> Steven Lembark                                            85-09 90th St.
> Workhorse Computing                                 Woodhaven, NY, 11421
> lembark@wrkhors.com                                      +1 888 359 3508
>
>

you can use ArchLinux it's also good:)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Saturday 27 September 2008, jaeyoung lee wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Steven Lembark <lembark@wrkhors.com> wrote:
> > Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.....If you can
> >
> >> do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
> >> should cover you for the updates....
> >>
> >> I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
> >> binaries to download too :)
> >
> > If you can download the runtime image
> > + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive
> > or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even
> > all that net hungry.
> >
> > You might find that Damn Small Linux is,
> > well, damn small and doesn't take that
> > much bandwidth to download.
> >
> > --
> > Steven Lembark                                            85-09 90th St.
> > Workhorse Computing                                 Woodhaven, NY, 11421
> > lembark@wrkhors.com                                      +1 888 359 3508
>
> you can use ArchLinux it's also good:)

except when it replaces a package with a higher version one without any kind 
of information to distinguish them (vmlinuz? but which one?)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Anton Kochnev]

В сообщении от Friday 26 September 2008 22:38:36 Andrew Gaydenko написал(а):
> No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install
> Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but
> the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup
> connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal
> net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are
> no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird
> and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps
> set for beginning, + booting to level 5).
>
> Suggestions?
>
> P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say,
> suse or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for
> OT.
>
>
> Andrew

I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My 
desktop - KDE. :)

The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for 
sources.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: =======
...
>
> I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My
> desktop - KDE. :)
>
> The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for
> sources.

That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Dale]

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Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> ======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: =======
> ...
>   
>> I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only. My
>> desktop - KDE. :)
>>
>> The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup for
>> sources.
>>     
>
> That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-)
>
>
>   

I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so.  
What's all that delta stuff anyway?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Dale wrote: =======
> Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > ======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: =======
> > ...
> >
> >> I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only.
> >> My desktop - KDE. :)
> >>
> >> The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup
> >> for sources.
> >
> > That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-)
>
> I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so.
> What's all that delta stuff anyway?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Saying Gentoo-incompatible I mean that user will be migrated from m$win (I 
force this migration, but have not opportunity to admin a system often), 
and she isn't too young to learn new technical things (seventy years old). 
All these mean, I'm finding a distro with (besides 'net not hungry') 
simplest and minimal maintaining, though without any tuning capabilities 
also, which is (one of the main) a reason we use Gentoo.


Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[Dale]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> ======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Dale wrote: =======
>   
>> Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>>     
>>> ======= On Saturday 27 September 2008, Anton Kochnev wrote: =======
>>> ...
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I have been using gentoo two years. And I have dialup connection only.
>>>> My desktop - KDE. :)
>>>>
>>>> The secret is: emerge-delta-webrsync for updating portages and deltup
>>>> for sources.
>>>>         
>>> That user isn't Gentoo-compatible :-)
>>>       
>> I have dial-up here too and I just sync and download once a week or so.
>> What's all that delta stuff anyway?
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>     
>
> Saying Gentoo-incompatible I mean that user will be migrated from m$win (I 
> force this migration, but have not opportunity to admin a system often), 
> and she isn't too young to learn new technical things (seventy years old). 
> All these mean, I'm finding a distro with (besides 'net not hungry') 
> simplest and minimal maintaining, though without any tuning capabilities 
> also, which is (one of the main) a reason we use Gentoo.
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>   

Well, coming off MS to Gentoo would have a steep learning curve.  I used 
Mandrake for a little while then switched to Gentoo.  To be honest, I 
installed everything off the CD with Mandrake.  If you want to update 
then you would need the net but if all she is doing is email and such, I 
wouldn't think updates are needed unless there is a bug that affects 
what she is doing. 

For me, the install was easy, updates were not to bad and it was pretty 
stable.  It's a thought.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

[forgottenwizard]

On 17:38 Fri 26 Sep, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install 
> Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but 
> the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup 
> connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal 
> net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are 
> no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird 
> and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps 
> set for beginning, + booting to level 5).
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse 
> or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT.
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 

You could limit the bandwidth usage (see man wget and man make.conf,
iirc), and run emerge --sync once a week, and emerge -u --fetchonly to
fetch packages at night when the net isn't going to be in use as often
(or during the day durning classes or work), then install at your own
leisure.

Also, you could just run glsa-check to update security problems.

if you want another distro, and they are new to Linux, I would probably
suggest Debian or one of its knock-offs (besides Ubuntu) to get them
started, and see if they like it.


Hope this helps some.
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